I have an application that fetches data, but due to limits on the server, I cannot make infinite requests (429 error).
Therefore I want to fetch data every night and store it in a global storage for all users to use so that the application seems faster and we do not get "too many requests".
I was thinking about Redis, but was thinking NextJs might have something similar. Any suggestions?
it's depand on number of data, the best practice is to use redis the fastest way
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I am looking at making a LOB html5 web application. The main part we are trying to accomplish is to make the application offline capable. This will mean taking a large chunk of SQL data from the server and storing it in the browser. This will need to be living in the browser for quite a while, dont want to have to continuously refresh it everytime the browser is closed and reopened.
We are looking at storing the data inside the client in indexedDB but I read that indexedDB is stored in temporary storage so the lifetime of it cannot be relied on. Does anyone know of any strategies on prolonging its lifetime? Also we will be pulling down massive chunks of data so 1-5mb storage might not suffice what we require.
My current thought is to somewhat store it down to the browser storage using html5 storage API's and hydrate it into the indexedDb as it's required. Just need to make sure we can grow the storage limit to whatever we need.
Any advice on how we approach this?
We are looking at storing the data inside the client in indexedDB but I read that indexedDB is stored in temporary storage so the lifetime of it cannot be relied on.
That is technically true but in practice I've never seen the browser actually delete data. More common if you're storing a lot of data, you will hit quota limits which are annoying and sometimes inconsistent/buggy.
Regardless, you shouldn't rely on data in IndexedDB always being there forever, because users can always delete data, have their computers break without backups, etc.
If you create a Chrome extension, you can enable unlimited storage. I've successfully stored several thousand large text documents persistently in indexedDB using this approach.
This might be a silly question to add, but can you access the storage area outside of the browser? For instance, if I did not want to have a huge lag when my app starts up and loads a bunch of data, could I make an external app to "refresh" the local data so that when the browser starts, it is ready to rock and roll?
I assume the answer here will be no, but I had to ask.
Has anyone worked around this for large data sets? For instance loading in one tab and working in another? Chrome extension to load, but access via the app?
I am writing a small appengine application and I want to start using Datastore.
My app has some users and each user is a complicated JAVA class.
Users might swap some "point" objects between them, so I need the data to be available and fast.
My question is quite generic:
How should I handle the data caching?
Storing the data entirely in the Datastore and fetching it in every call sounds slow in runtime.
On the other hand, holding the data in a static JAVA class sounds tricky, because every now and then the server resets and data is erased.
If I had a main loop, like in a regular console application I would've probably saved the data twice-three times a day on predefined hours of the day.
How should I manage my code in such a way that it would save the status in the datastore every now and then and this way will not loose any data.
if the number of write operations are less than read operations,
it is good to try "Write-through caching" with memcache module.
https://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/java/memcache/
basically the write-through caching works like this:
for every write operations, program update the datastore, then backup the data to memcache
for every read operations, program will try to read from memcache. if it can found required data, then it returns, otherwise it will fetch the data from datastore and backup the results to memcache.
As #lucemia noted, you should use memcache.
If you use objectify, you can set-up caching declaratively, without writing and cache handling code.
I see in many cases memcached is used. Can you give examples when to avoid memcached other than large files? How large files are appropriate for memcached?
Thanks for your answer
If you know when to bust the caches to prevent out-of-date things from being cached, there's not really a reason to avoid memcache for anything small unless it's so trivial to compute that it'd be approximately as long to hit memcache as it would to just compute it.
I have seen Memcached is used to store session data.As my point of view its not recommended storing sessions in Memcached.If a session disappears, often the user is logged out,If a portion of a cache disappears or either due to a hardware crash it should not cause your users noticable pain.According to the memcached site, “memcached is a high-performance, distributed memory object caching system, generic in nature, but intended for use in speeding up dynamic web applications by alleviating database load.” So while developing your application, remember that you must have a fall-back mechanism to retrieve the data once it is not found in the Memcached server. Here are some tips,
Avoid storing frequently updated data in Memcached.
Memcached does not ship with in-built security mechanisms. So It is your responsibility to handle security issues.
Try to maintain predefined fixed number of connections in the connection pool because each set/get operation is a new atomic connection to the Memcached server.
Avoid storing raw data coming straight from the database rather than storing processed data
I have a very small amount of data (~200 bytes) that I retrieve from the database very often. The write rate is insignificant.
I would like to get away from all the unnecessary database calls to fetch this almost static data. Is memcached a good use for this? Something else?
If it's of any relevance I'm running this on GAE using python. The data in question could be easily (de)serialized as json.
Memcache is well-suited for this - reading from the datastore is much more expensive than reading from memcache. This is especially true for small amounts of data for which the cost to retrieve is dominated by latency to the datastore.
If your app receives enough requests that instances typically stay alive for a little while, then you could go one step further and use App Caching to largely avoid memcache too. (Basically, cache the value in a global variable, and also app-cache the time the value was last updated. Provide an accessor for the value which retrieves the latest from memcache/db if it hasn't been updated in X minutes). Memcache is pretty cheap though, so this extra work might only make sense if you access this variable rather frequently.
If it changes less often than once per day, you could just hardcode it in webapp code, and reupload the file each time it changes.
First of all I'll explain the question. By persistence, I mean storing data beyond the execution of a single request. It might not be the best question title, so feel free to edit it.
The way I see it, there are three types of persistence in GAE, each one "closer" to the request itself:
The datastore
This is where all data is most likely to be based. It may go into the higher layers of persistence temporarily, but in the end, this is where the data really is. Unfortunately, querying the datastore repeatedly is slow and uses a lot of resources.
Use when...
storing data that should be stored for an indefinite amount of time.
Avoid using when...
getting data that is queried often but rarely updated.
memcache
This is a highly complex caching engine that stores the data in memory and makes sure all users read from/write to the same cache. It's a much faster way to get/set data on a key→value basis than using the datastore. Unfortunately, data can only stay in the memory for so long, and there is no guarantee that it will stay for as long as you tell it to; the data may disappear at any time if memory is needed elsewhere.
Use when...
you need to get data more often than you need to update it. Even when data needs to be updated often, it can have its uses (if a few missed updates are considered okay), by setting up a task queue to persist data from the memcache to the datastore.
Avoid using when...
data needs to be updated often and has to be up-to-date when fetched.
Global variables
This isn't an official method of persisting data, but it works. However, it's the least reliable method, and since it has no data synchronization across servers, persisted data may show up differently for different users (but from what I've found, the server rarely changes for the same user.) Theoretically, this should be the method that has the least overhead in getting/setting values, however, and could have its uses.
Use when...
hell freezes over? I don't know... I haven't enough knowledge about what goes on behind the scenes to actually rely on this method. Discuss!
Avoid using when...
you rely on the data being the same across servers.
Cookies
If the data is user-specific, it can be efficient to store it as a cookie in the user's browser. There are some pitfalls to watch out for though:
Security – the user can meddle with cookies, and malicious people could potentially do the same. To make sure that the contents are unreadable and unchangeable to all, the cookie can be encrypted using the PyCrypto library which is available on GAE.
Performance – since cookies are sent with every request (even images), it can add to the bandwidth being used, and slow down requests. One solution is to use another domain for static content, so the browser won't send the cookie for that content.
When should the different types of persistence be used? How can they be combined to reduce/even out the amount of resources being spent?
Datastore
Use the datastore to hold any long living information. The datastore should be used like you would use a normal database to hold data that will be used in your site/application.
MemCache
Use this to access data a lot quicker than trying to access the datastore. MemCache can return data really quickly and can be used for any data that needs to span multiple calls from users. It is normally data that was originally in the datastore and then moved to the memcache.
def get_data():
data = memcache.get("key")
if data is not None:
return data
else:
data = self.query_for_data() #get data from the datastore
memcache.add("key", data, 60)
return data
The memcache will flush itself when the item is out of date. You set this in the last param of the add shown above.
Global Variables
I wouldn't use these at all since they can't span instances. In GAE a request creates a new instance, well in python it does. If you want to use Global variables I would store the data needed in the memcache.
Your post is a good summary of the 3 major options. You mostly have answered the question already. However, if you are currently building an app and stressing over whether or not you should memcache something, try this:
Write your app using the datastore for everything that needs to outlive more than one request.
Once your app (or some usable subset) is working, run some functional tests or simulations to see where the slow spots (or high quota usage) are.
Find the most slow or inefficient request path, and figure out how to make that faster (either by using memcache, or altering your datastructures so you can do gets instead of queries, or possibly storing something in a global instance variable*)
goto 2 until you're satisfied.
*Things that might be good for a "global" variable would be something that is relatively expensive to create/fetch, that a substantial portion of your requests will use, and that does not need to be consistent across requests/users.
I use global variable to speed up json conversion. Before I convert my data structure to json, I hash it and check if the json if already available. For my app this gives quite a speedup as the pure python implementation is quite slow.
Global variables
To complement AutomatedTester's answer, and also reply his further question about how to share information between GETs without memcache or datastore, below a quick illustration of how to use global variables:
if 'i' not in globals():
i = 0
def main():
global i
i += 1
print 'Status: 200'
print 'Content-type: text/plain\n'
print i
if __name__ == '__main__':
main()
Calling this script multiple times will give you 1, 2, 3... Of course as mentioned earlier by Blixt you should not count on this trick too much ('i' can sometimes switch back to zero) but it can be useful to store user-specific information in a dictionary, session data for instance.