terminating array looping using pointer notation in C - arrays

I’m taking a C class on Udemy. Unfortunately the instructor isn’t replying to my question so I thought I’d try this site. My assumption is that it is probably fairly common when developing a program to not know how many elements may be part of an array. When initializing an array the instructor recommends not specifying a size but to let the compiler do it.
Example: int array[ ] = {2,3,4,5,6,7,8};
Obviously, using this method there is no index to use to terminate looping. According to “C Primer Plus” by Stephen Prata the element after the last element in the array is a valid pointer location:
(pg. 406) - C guarantees that when it allocates space for an array, a
pointer to the first location after the end of the array is a valid
pointer.
If I’m using pointer notation (array++) to loop through the array, what condition can I use to terminate the looping? Is there a value in that location after the final element that I can use? Is that value always the same or does it change depending on the type of array?

In C pointers are signed. That has consequences dealing with array-like data structures where you might:
while (a <= a+last) {
...
a++;
}
if the index one beyond the end of a could have a change of sign, then that code could fail. Idiomatic C does not suggest the above; but it needs to be preserved, thus this limitation.
In system code, it is possible that you deal with allocations that do not conform to this, thus you should try to work with the idiomatic:
while (a < a+len) {
...
a++
}
So, for your exact question:
for (size_t i = 0; i < sizeof array/sizeof array[0]; i++) {
...
}
or
for (int *p = array; p < array + sizeof array / sizeof array[0]; p++) {
...
}

Your basic idea (looping through an array using pointers) is sound; however, there are a number of points in your question that need some attention.
Is there a value in that location after the final element that I can use? Is that value always the same or does it change depending on the type of array?
Yes, there is a (almost certainly) some value in that location, but it's not something you can ever use! The pointer to the 'one-past-the-end' element is valid only for use in pointer arithmetic or comparison operations; attempting to dereference it (to read the value at that address) is undefined behaviour.
You can get that 'one-past-the-end' pointer by adding the number of elements in the array to the address of the array's first element (or the array 'name' itself). The idiomatic way to get the number of elements in an array is to divide the size of the entire array by the size of its first element. So, for your array, we can declare and initialize our "end pointer" like this, using the sizeof operator:
int* end = array + sizeof(array) / sizeof(*array);
// int* end = array + sizeof array / sizeof *array; // Alternative form: "()" optional
Another important point: In your question you mention using array++ to loop through your array variable. You cannot do this, because array isn't actually a (modifiable) pointer variable – it's the name of a variable (an array) whose location is fixed at the point when main (or whatever function it is declared inside) is entered. Instead, you will need to copy the address of the array into another int* pointer, and increment that in the loop.
With those points in mind, here's an illustrative example of how you can loop through your array using a pointer:
#include <stdio.h>
int main(void)
{
int array[] = { 2,3,4,5,6,7,8 };
int* end = array + sizeof(array) / sizeof(*array);
for (int* p = array; p < end; ++p) {
// Note that, when we reach p == end, the loop will not run, so ...
printf("%d\n", *p); // ...we never attempt the *p operation on that
}
return 0;
}
A couple of other points of clarification:
The int* p = array assignment works (and is perfectly valid C) because an array variable name can readily decay into a pointer to its first element (as it will if you pass that array as an argument to a function, for example). See: What is array to pointer decay?
Because of that last point above, you cannot use the sizeof(a)/sizeof(*a) paradigm to determine the size of an array in a function it is passed to as an argument; in such cases, you need to pass the array's size as an additional argument. See: How do I determine the size of my array in C?

Related

Is a 2D Array an Array of Pointers?

If I have:
int A[10][20];
printf("%p",A[3]);
it will print the address of A[3][0].
However, I'd like to know if this one dimensional array A[3] containing pointers really exists, or it is calculated in some way.
The way you have defined A means that the compiler will allocate for it a contiguous block of memory large enough to hold 10 x 20 (200) integers; see here (scroll down to "Multidimesional arrays"). As I'm sure you realize, if you were to do printf("%p", A); you would see the address of the beginning of that allocated block.
Now, when the compiler sees the expression A[3], it will add what it calculates as the necessary amount of "integer sizes" to the base address (that of A, or A[0][0]); in this case, it will add "3" (the index specified) multiplied by the combined size of all the other dimensions (in this case, there's only one, which is 20).
So, in your case, there is no actual array of pointers; just a memory block that the compiler can interpret according to how you described any part(s) of it.
However, in a more versatile approach, one can actually define a 2D array in terms of an actual array of pointers, like so:
int **A;
A = malloc(10 * sizeof(int*));
for (int n = 0; n < 10; ++n) A[n] = malloc(20 * sizeof(int));
In this case, using printf("%p",A[3]); would still be valid, but it would give a very different offset value from printf("%p",A); or printf("%p",A[0]);.
It's also, perhaps, worth noting that, even though these two different declarations for A can both resolve an individual element through an expression like A[i][j] (but the compiler would evaluate the addresses differently), there is here scope for major confusion! When, for example, passing such an array to a function: if the function expects data allocated in the second form, and you give it an array defined in the first form (and vice versa), you're gonna get major undefined behaviour .
yes there is a way to calculate the position:
for A[i][j]
the position of the memory block will be
pos = A + i*(number_of_columns_in_each_row) + j
here A is the pointer to the first element of the array
However, I'd like to know if this one dimensional array A containing pointers really exists, or it is calculated in some way.
The way you defined the array A :
int A[10][20];
does not contain any pointers as elements of the array. it contains only integer elements.
if you want to make an array of pointers, which should be assigned to int-variables is defined like that:
int *A[10][20];
You also can set a pointer to the start of the array, which means element [0] [0]
by using:
int *pointer;
int *A[10][20];
pointer = &A;
You also be able to set the pointer slightly forwards according to each element by increase the pointer.
pointer++;

C : If as I understand 0 and '\0' are the same, how does the compiler knows the size of an array when I write int my_array = {0};?

I am trying to create a function to copy an array into another using pointers. I'd like to add the following condition : if the array of destination is smaller, the loop must break.
So basically it's working, but it is not working if I intilize the the destination array as follows :
int dest_array[10] = {0};
From what I understand it fills the array with int 0's which are equivalent to '\0' (null characters). So here is my question :
In this case how can the computer know the array size or when it ends ?
(And how do I compare arrays passed as parameters ?)
void copy(int *src_arr, int *dest_arr)
{
// The advantage of using pointers is that you don't need to provide the source array's size
// I can't use sizeof to compare the sizes of the arrays because it does not work on parameters.
// It returns the size of the pointer to the array and not of of the whole array
int* ptr1;
int* ptr2;
for( ptr1 = source, ptr2 = dest_arr ;
*ptr1 != '\0' ;
ptr1++, ptr2++ )
{
if(!*ptr2) // Problem here if dest_arr full of 0's
{
printf("Copy interrupted :\n" +
"Destination array is too small");
break;
}
*ptr2 = *ptr1;
}
In C, it is impossible to know the length of an array inherently. This is due to the fact that an array is really just a contiguous chunk of memory, and the value passed to functions is really just a pointer to the first element in the array. As a result of this, to actually know the length of an array within a function other than the function where that array was declared, you have to somehow provide that value to the function. Two common approaches are the use of sentinel values which indicate the last element (similar to the way '\0', the null character, is per convention interpreted as the first character not part of a string in C), or providing another parameter which contains the array length.
As a very common example of this: if you have written any programs which use command-line parameters, then surely you are familiar with the common definition of int main(int argc, char *argv[]), which uses the second of the aforementioned approaches by providing the length of the argv array via the argc parameter.
The compiler has some ways to work around this for local variables. E.g., the following would work:
#include <stdio.h>
int main(){
int nums[10] = {0};
printf("%zu\n", sizeof(nums)/sizeof(nums[0]));
return 0;
}
Which prints 10 to STDOUT; however, this only works because the sizeof operation is done locally, and the compiler knows the length of the array at that point.
On the other hand, we can consider the situation of passing the array to another function:
#include <stdio.h>
int tryToGetSizeOf(int arr[]){
printf("%zu", sizeof(arr)/sizeof(arr[0]));
}
int main(){
int nums[10] = {0};
printf("%zu\n", sizeof(nums)/sizeof(nums[0]));
puts("Calling other function...");
tryToGetSizeOf(nums);
return 0;
}
This will end up printing the following to STDOUT:
10
Calling other function...
2
This may not be the value you're expecting, but this occurs due to the fact that the method signature int tryToGetSizeOf(int arr[]) is functionally equivalent to int tryToGetSizeOf(int *arr). Therefore, you are dividing the size of an integer pointer (int *) by the size of a single int; whereas while you're still in the local context of main() (i.e., where the array was defined originally), you are dividing the size of the allocated memory region by the size of the datatype that memory region is partitioned as (int).
An example of this available on Ideone.
int* ptr1;
int* ptr2;
You lose size information when you refer to arrays as pointers. There is no way you can identify the size of the array i.e. the number of elements using ptr1. You have to take help of another variable which will denote the size of the array referred by ptr1 (or ptr2).
Same holds for character arrays as well. Consider the below:
char some_string[100];
strcpy(some_string, "hello");
The approach you mentioned of checking for \0 (or 0) gives you the number of elements which are part of the string residing in some_string. In no way does it refer to the number of elements in some_string which is 100.
To identify the size of destination, you have to pass another argument depicting its size.
There are other ways to identify the end of the array but t is cleaner to pass the size explicitly rather than using some pointer hack like passing a pointer to end of the array or using some invalid value as the last element in array.
TL/DR - You will need to pass the array size as a separate parameter to your function. Sentinel values like 0 only mark the logical end of a sequence, not the end of the array itself.
Unless it is the operand of the sizeof or unary & operators, or is a string literal used to initialize a character array in a declaration, an expression of type "N-element array of T" will be converted ("decay") to an expression of type "pointer to T", and the value of the expression will be the address of the first element of the array. So when you pass your source and destination arrays as arguments to copy, what the function actually receives is just two pointers.
There's no metadata associated with a pointer that tells it whether it's pointing to the first object in a sequence, or how long that sequence is1. A sentinel value like the 0 terminator in strings only tells you how long a logical sequence of values is, not the size of the array in which they are stored2.
You will need to supply at least one more parameter to copy to tell it how large the target buffer is, so you stop copying when you've reached the end of the target buffer or you see a 0 in the source buffer, whichever comes first.
The same is true for array objects - there's no runtime metadata in the array object to store the size or anything else. The only reason the sizeof trick works is that the array's declaration is in scope. The array object itself doesn't know how big it is.
This is a problem for library functions like strcpy, which only receives the starting address for each buffer - if there are more characters in the source buffer than the target is sized to hold, strcpy will blast right past the end of the target buffer and overwrite whatever follows.

passing structure array to function

I've been learning C for about 2 months, still a novice:(
I know there are other similar questions on this site. I've read them, but still couldn't really understand, so here I am. Below is my code:
//naming my structure as ball
typedef struct ball_room {
int enter;
int exit;
} ball;
//I've omitted some irrelevant details for brevity
int i, n, max;
scanf("%d", &n);
ball person[n];
.../*assign values to ball.enter and ball.exit with user input*/
max = 1;
for (i = 0; i < n; i++)
if (ball_room(person, person[i].enter, n) > max)
max = ball_room(person, person[i].enter, n);
printf("%d\n", max);
return 0;
}
and below is my function receiving the array:
//This function returns the number of people in the ballroom
//when b[j](person[j] in "main") enters
int ball_room(ball *b, int i, int n)
{
int people = 0, j;
for (j = 0; j < n; j++)
if (b[j].enter <= i && b[j].exit > i)
people++;
return people;
}
my question is that why is it b[j].enter instead of b[j]->enter, which my compiler wouldn't accept?
In my limited experience, when manipulating structure itself (the object), I use . to go inside the structure, and when it's a pointer (the address), I use -> (hope this is correct.)
And in this case, I pass the array to function using ball *b, which represent the address of person[0], so I can access the whole array. But shouldn't ball *b be in the form of a pointer and therefore I should use -> to access its content? It's just an address that I pass to the function.
This is my first time doing something with an array of structures, please help me get this clear, thank you!
Given ball *b, b[j] is an element from the elements that b points to. Thus b[j] is not a pointer; it is a struct. Since it is a struct, you use . to refer to members in it.
The definition of b[j] in the C standard is that it is *((b)+(j)). So it takes the pointer b, moves j elements beyond it, and then applies *.
Since * is already applied in b[j], you do not need ->, just ..
you use . instead of -> because of this declaration of parameters:
int ball_room(ball *b, int i, int n)
b is expected to be pointer to data with type ball, so you can access it in various ways:
array way: e.g. b[5].somefield = 15 - you use dot here, because if b is of type ball *, it means that b is pointer OR it is array of objects with type b, if it's array of objects with type b (which is your case) you use . to access fields of object
pointer way: e.g. (b+5)->somefield = 15 - it will do exactly same thing as code above, but you will access data in pointer way
In C/C++ an array devolves into the address of it's first member. So when you pass the array to ball_room what actually gets passed is &ball[0].
Now inside ball_room the reverse happens. b is a pointer to ball. But here you use it as an array b[j]. So it un-devolves back into an array of structs. So what b[j] gives you is the struct and not a pointer to a struct. Consequently you access it using . instead of ->.
You can also use (b + j)->somefield. Or for even more fun how about writing j[b].somefield. The later being a really confusing left-over from the eraly compiler days when a[b] truly got turned into *(a + b) internally.
For explanation of the current issue, see Eric's answer; in some of the answers given so far there is dangerous wording applied, so just to make clear: When do we have an array and when a pointer???
Consider the following:
int a[7];
As long as we can refer to a directly, we still have an array and can use any operations that are valid on, e. g. getting size:
size_t n = sizeof(a); // size in bytes, not ints, i. e. 7*sizeof(int)
You can pass arrays to functions or even do pointer arithmetics on:
f(a);
a + 1;
In both cases, the array "decays" to a pointer, though, and the result is a pointer as well. Be aware that you can assign new values to a pointer, but not to an array itself (you can assign new values to the array's elements, directly or via pointer), so you cannot do things like ++a either.
When an array decays to a pointer, it gets a pointer to its first element:
int* ptr = a;
int* ptr = &*a; // only pointers can be dereferenced -> a decays!
int* ptr = &a[0]; // short for &*(a + 0)...
All result in exactly the same; however, the following is invalid:
int* ptr = &a;
Taking the address of an entire array actually is possible, but the resulting pointer is not of type "pointer to element" nor of type "pointer to pointer to element" (int** in the example), but of type "pointer to array of specific size". Syntax for is ugly, though, but the following would be legal again:
int(*aptr)[7] = &a;
You need to read: if I dereference ptr, I get int[7]...
Once decayed, there is only a pointer to the array left (more precisely: to one of the array elements, directly after decaying, to the first; array and first element always share the same address, so, although of different type, both pointers ptr and aptr from above hold exactly the same value). Pointers can be moved around within the array, but they do not hold as much information as the array itself, especially, the array size gets lost. This is why one needs to pass the array's length together with the pointer to functions (if needed; another variant is a sentinel value denoting the array end such as the terminating null character in strings or the null pointer following the string arguments in main's arguments list):
int a[7];
f(a, sizeof(a)/sizeof(*a)); // division: sizeof is in bytes, dividing by size
// of first element gives number of elements
Possibly with f as:
void f(int b[], size_t n)
// ^^^^^^^ in function parameter lists, just alternative syntax for int* b !!!
// however, we can show more explicitly that we expect a pointer
// to an array this way...
{
size_t m = sizeof(b); // as b is a POINTER, gives the constant (but hardware specific!)
// size of a pointer (on typical modern 64-bit hardware 8 bytes),
// no matter what size of the array being pointed to is!!!
while(n)
{
*b++ = n--;
// ^^ advances pointer, NOT array!
}
}
Hope this helps to avoid confusion.
In C, the array name is a pointer to array’s first element, hence your function declaration has name ball *band works when you pass a ball[] instance.
Try dynamically allocating the memory by using malloc() and passing that pointer to your function.

Can malloc() be used to define the size of an array?

Here consider the following sample of code:
int *a = malloc(sizeof(int) * n);
Can this code be used to define an array a containing n integers?
int *a = malloc(sizeof(int) * n);
Can this code be used to define an array a containing n integers?
That depends on what you mean by "define an array".
A declaration like:
int arr[10];
defines a named array object. Your pointer declaration and initialization does not.
However, the malloc call (if it succeeds and returns a non-NULL result, and if n > 0) will create an anonymous array object at run time.
But it does not "define an array a". a is the name of a pointer object. Given that the malloc call succeeds, a will point to the initial element of an array object, but it is not itself an array.
Note that, since the array object is anonymous, there's nothing to which you can apply sizeof, and no way to retrieve the size of the array object from the pointer. If you need to know how big the array is, you'll need to keep track of it yourself.
(Some of the comments suggest that the malloc call allocates memory that can hold n integer objects, but not an array. If that were the case, then you wouldn't be able to access the elements of the created array object. See N1570 6.5.6p8 for the definition of pointer addition, and 7.22.3p1 for the description of how a malloc call can create an accessible array.)
int *a = malloc(sizeof(int) * n);
Assuming malloc() call succeeds, you can use the pointer a like an array using the array notation (e.g. a[0] = 5;). But a is not an array itself; it's just a pointer to an int (and it may be a block of memory which can store multiple ints).
Your comment
But I can use an array a in my program with no declaration otherwise
suggests this is what you are mainly asking about.
In C language,
p[i] == *(p + i) == *(i + p) == i[p]
as long as one of i or p is of pointer type (p can an array as well -- as it'd be converted into a pointer in any expression). Hence, you'd able to index a like you'd access an array. But a is actually a pointer.
Yes. That is exactly what malloc() does.
The important distinction is that
int array[10];
declares array as an array object with enough room for 10 integers. In contrast, the following:
int *pointer;
declares pointer as a single pointer object.
It is important to distiguinsh that one of them is a pointer and that the other as an actual array, and that arrays and pointers are closely related but are different things. However, saying that there is no array in the following is also incorrect:
pointer = malloc(sizeof (int) * 10);
Because what this piece of code does is precisely to allocate an array object with room for 10 integers. The pointer pointer contains the address of the first element of that array.(C99 draft, section 7.20.3 "Memory management functions")
Interpreting your question very literally, the answer is No: To "define an array" means something quite specific; an array definition looks something like:
int a[10];
Whereas what you have posted is a memory allocation. It allocates a space suitable for holding an array of 10 int values, and stores a pointer to the first element within this space - but it doesn't define an array; it allocates one.
With that said, you can use the array element access operator, [], in either case. For instance the following code snippets are legal:
int a[10];
for (int i = 0; i < 10; i++) a[i] = 0;
and
int *a = malloc(sizeof(int) * n);
for (int i = 0; i < n; i++) a[i] = 0;
There is a subtle difference between what they do however. The first defines an array, and sets all its elements to 0. The second allocates storage which can hold an equivalently-typed array value, and uses it for this purpose by initialising each element to 0.
It is worth pointing out that the second example does not check for an allocation error, which is generally considered bad practice. Also, it constitutes a potential memory leak if the allocated storage is not later freed.
In the language the Standard was written to describe (as distinct from the language that would be described by a pedantic literal reading of it), the intention was that malloc(n) would return a pointer that would, if cast to a T*, could be treated as a pointer to the first element of a T[n/sizeof T*]. Per N1570 7.22.3:
The
pointer returned if the allocation succeeds is suitably aligned so that it may be assigned to
a pointer to any type of object with a fundamental alignment requirement and then used
to access such an object or an array of such objects in the space allocated (until the space
is explicitly deallocated).
The definition of pointer addition and subtraction, however, do not speak of acting upon pointers that are "suitably aligned" to allow access to arrays of objects, but rather speak of pointers to elements of actual array objects. If a program accesses space for 20 int objects, I don't think the Standard does actually says that the resulting pointer would behave in all respects as though it were a pointer to element [0] of an int[20], as distinct from e.g. a pointer to element [0][0] of an int[4][5]. An implementation would have to be really obtuse not to allow it to be used as either, of course, but I don't think the Standard actually requires such treatment.

Questions about pointers and arrays

Sanity-check questions:
I did a bit of googling and discovered the correct way to return a one-dimensional integer array in C is
int * function(args);
If I did this, the function would return a pointer, right? And if the return value is r, I could find the nth element of the array by typing r[n]?
If I had the function return the number "3", would that be interpreted as a pointer to the address "3?"
Say my function was something like
int * function(int * a);
Would this be a legal function body?
int * b;
b = a;
return b;
Are we allowed to just assign arrays to other arrays like that?
If pointers and arrays are actually the same thing, can I just declare a pointer without specifying the size of the array? I feel like
int a[10];
conveys more information than
int * a;
but aren't they both ways of declaring an array? If I use the latter declaration, can I assign values to a[10000000]?
Main question:
How can I return a two-dimensional array in C? I don't think I could just return a pointer to the start of the array, because I don't know what dimensions the array has.
Thanks for all your help!
Yes
Yes but it would require a cast: return (int *)3;
Yes but you are not assigning an array to another array, you are assigning a pointer to a pointer.
Pointers and arrays are not the same thing. int a[10] reserves space for ten ints. int *a is an uninitialized variable pointing to who knows what. Accessing a[10000000] will most likely crash your program as you are trying to access memory you don't have access to or doesn't exist.
To return a 2d array return a pointer-to-pointer: int ** f() {}
Yes; array indexing is done in terms of pointer arithmetic: a[i] is defined as *(a + i); we find the address of the i'th element after a and dereference the result. So a could be declared as either a pointer or an array.
It would be interpreted as an address, yes (most likely an invalid address). You would need to cast the literal 3 as a pointer, because values of type int and int * are not compatible.
Yes, it would be legal. Pointless, but legal.
Pointers and arrays are not the same thing; in most circumstances, an expression of array type will be converted ("decay") to an expression of pointer type and its value will be the address of the first element of the array. Declaring a pointer by itself is not sufficient, because unless you initialize it to point to a block of memory (either the result of a malloc call or another array) its value will be indeterminate, and may not point to valid memory.
You really don't want to return arrays; remember that an array expression is converted to a pointer expression, so you're returning the address of the first element. However, when the function exits, that array no longer exists and the pointer value is no longer valid. It's better to pass the array you want to modify as an argument to the function, such as
void foo (int *a, size_t asize)
{
size_t i;
for (i = 0; i < asize; i++)
a[i] = some_value();
}
Pointers contain no metadata about the number of elements they point to, so you must pass that as a separate parameter.
For a 2D array, you'd do something like
void foo(size_t rows, size_t columns, int (*a)[columns])
{
size_t i, j;
for (i = 0; i < rows; i++)
for (j = 0; j < columns; j++)
a[i][j] = some_value;
}
This assumes you're using a C99 compiler or a C2011 compiler that supports variable length arrays; otherwise the number of columns must be a constant expression (i.e., known at compile time).
These answers certainly call for a bit more depth. The better you understand pointers, the less bad code you will write.
An array and a pointer are not the same, EXCEPT when they are. Off the top of my head:
int a[2][2] = { 1, 2, 3, 4 };
int (* p)[2] = a;
ASSERT (p[1][1] == a[1][1]);
Array "a" functions exactly the same way as pointer "p." And the compiler knows just as much from each, specifically an address, and how to calculate indexed addresses. But note that array a can't take on new values at run time, whereas p can. So the "pointer" aspect of a is gone by the time the program runs, and only the array is left. Conversely, p itself is only a pointer, it can point to anything or nothing at run time.
Note that the syntax for the pointer declaration is complicated. (That is why I came to stackoverflow in the first place today.) But the need is simple. You need to tell the compiler how to calculate addresses for elements past the first column. (I'm using "column" for the rightmost index.) In this case, we might assume it needs to increment the address ((2*1) + 1) to index [1][1].
However, there are a couple of more things the compiler knows (hopefully), that you might not.
The compiler knows two things: 1) whether the elements are stored sequentially in memory, and 2) whether there really are additional arrays of pointers, or just one pointer/address to the start of the array.
In general, a compile time array is stored sequentially, regardless of dimension(s), with no extra pointers. But to be sure, check the compiler documentation. Thus if the compiler allows you to index a[0][2] it is actually a[1][0], etc. A run time array is however you make it. You can make one dimensional arrays of whatever length you choose, and put their addresses into other arrays, also of whatever length you choose.
And, of course, one reason to muck with any of these is because you are choosing from using run time multiplies, or shifts, or pointer dereferences to index the array. If pointer dereferences are the cheapest, you might need to make arrays of pointers so there is no need to do arithmetic to calculate row addresses. One downside is it requires memory to store the addtional pointers. And note that if the column length is a power of two, the address can be calculated with a shift instead of a multiply. So this might be a good reason to pad the length up--and the compiler could, at least theoretically, do this without telling you! And it might depend on whether you select optimization for speed or space.
Any architecture that is described as "modern" and "powerful" probably does multiplies as fast as dereferences, and these issues go away completely--except for whether your code is correct.

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