I noticed that in the Azure Search, there is some delay after insertion and deletion.
For example in my code base there is method for inserting and method for deletion, after inserting index and delete does run, Even after that, document is still in index. After some time when i check it, it is gone.
And i couldn't find anything related about delay in azure spec. Has anyone have answer yet. Because I need proper proof that
Yes, short delays are possible and common. For Azure Cognitive Search SDK tests we often wait a second or two when updating an index before acting on and asserting code under test. The indexes are optimized for fast retrievals, but modifications may not always be immediate.
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We are having an issue where we need event relations for people(s), and are having problems with this very large group of people having almost 400 total event relations in this one week we are testing on... When trying to grab this large groups event relations, it will take forever and possibly time out. However, if you try again right after a timeout it goes in a couple seconds and is great. I was thinking this was salesforce just chaching the soql query/information and so it could act very quickly the second time. I tried to kind of trick it into having this query cached and ready by having a batch job that ran regularly to query every members event relations so when they tried to access our app the timeout issue would stop.
However, this is not even appearing to work. Even though the batch is running correctly and querying all these event relations, when you go to the app after a while without using it, it will still timeout or take very long the first time then be very quick after that.
Is there a way to successfully keep this cached so it will run very quickly when a user goes and tries to see all the event relations of a large group of people? With the developer console we saw that the event relation query was the huge time suck in the code and the real issue. I have been kind of looking into the Platform Cache of salesforce. Would storing this data there provide the solution I am looking for?
You should look into updating your query to be selective by using indexes in the where cause and custom indexes if necessary.
We are using Azure Search for various scenarios. We often need to update an individual document with changes that users make. We need to have these changes become visible in our indexes as soon as possible so that the stale time is as short as possible within reason.
What is the best strategy to handle this. We know that batch updates is the way to go but we need more immediate reflection of the changes.
Once a document is updated, how long does it take for the index to reflect this change.
Many thanks
If the updates are not very frequent, you can simply update the Azure Search document immediately (that is, using batches of size 1). On the other hand, if the updates are extremely frequent and you notice a high rate of failures with single-document batches, you will need to build some sort of "collector" mechanism to batch up updates. My recommendation would be to do the simple thing first: try single-document batches, and add batching logic if necessary.
Updated or newly indexed documents are reflected in the search results after a short delay, usually ranging from single milliseconds to 1-2 seconds. The delay depends on the service topology and indexing load.
I need to perform an online search in Solr i.e user need to find list of user which are online with particular criteria.
How I am handling this: we store the ids of user in a table and I send all online user id in Solr request like
&fq=-id:(id1 id2 id3 ............id5000)
The problem with this approach is that when ids become large, Solr is taking too much time to resolved and we need to transfer large request over the network.
One solution can be use of join in Solr but online data change regularly and I can't index data every time (say 5-10 min, it should be at-least an hour).
Other solution I think of firing this query internally from Solr based on certain parameter in URL. I don't have much idea about Solr internals so don't know how to proceed.
With Solr4's soft commits, committing has become cheap enough that it might be feasible to actually store the "online" flag directly in the user record, and just have &fq=online:true on your query. That reduces the overhead involved in sending 5000 id's over the wire and parsing them, and lets Solr optimize the query a bit. Whenever someone logs in or out, set their status and set the commitWithin on the update. It's worth a shot, anyway.
We worked around this issue by implementing Sharding of the data.
Basically, without going heavily into code detail:
Write your own indexing code
use consistent hashing to decide which ID goes to which Solr server
index each user data to the relevant shard (it can be a several machines)
make sure you have redundancy
Query Solr shards
Do sharded queries in Solr using the shards parameter
Start an EmbeddedSolr and use it to do a sharded query
Solr will query all the shards and merge the results, it also provides timeouts if you need to limit the query time for each shard
Even with all of what I said above, I do not believe Solr is a good fit for this. Solr is not really well suited for searches on indexes that are constantly changing and also if you mainly search by IDs than a search engine is not needed.
For our project we basically implement all the index building, load balancing and query engine ourselves and use Solr mostly as storage. But we have started using Solr when sharding was flaky and not performant, I am not sure what the state of it is today.
Last note, if I was building this system today from scratch without all the work we did over the past 4 years I would advise using a cache to store all the users that are currently online (say memcached or redis) and at request time I would simply iterate over all of them and filter out according to the criteria. The filtering by criteria can be cached independently and updated incrementally, also iterating over 5000 records is not necessarily very time consuming if the matching logic is very simple.
Any robust solution will include bringing your data close to SOLR (batch) and using it internally. NOT running a very large request during search which is low latency thing.
You should develop your own filter; The filter will cache the online users data once in a while (say, every minute). If the data changes VERY frequently, consider implementing PostFilter.
You can find a good example of filter implementation here:
http://searchhub.org/2012/02/22/custom-security-filtering-in-solr/
one solution can be use of join in solr but online data change
regularly and i cant index data everytime(say 5-10 min, it should be
at-least an hr)
I think you could very well use Solr joins, but after a little bit of improvisation.
The Solution, I propose is as follows:
You can have 2 Indexes (Solr Cores)
1. Primary Index (The one you have now)
2. Secondary Index with only two fields , "ID" and "IS_ONLINE"
You could now update the Secondary Index frequently (in the order of seconds) and keep it in sync with the table you have, for storing online users.
NOTE: This secondary Index even if updated frequently, would not degrade any performance provided we do the necessary tweaks like usage of appropriate queries during delta-import, etc.
You could now perform a Solr join on the ID field on these two Indexes to achieve what you want. Here is the link on how to perform Solr Joins between Indexes/ Solr Cores.
I want to do solr full refresh with out deleting the index so that the data can be accessed until full refresh is done. Once the full refresh is completed the old index has to be removed. How can i do this, please help.
I would suggest the use of multiple cores in your Solr implementation. A "live" core and an "ondeck" core, where "live" is the current index and "ondeck" is the one that you will refresh into. (Note: you can name the cores anything that is meaningful to you) Once the refresh has been completed, you can issue a SWAP command that will switch the two cores out in real time without any impact to the users (eg. Solr will manage the searches being executed against the cores behind the scenes for you).
We have implemented this exact scenario on a couple of other indexes at my current company with very good success.
Im working with Rails 3 and Sunspot solr 3.5. My application uses Solr to index user generated content and makes it searchable for other users. The goal is to allow users to search this data as soon as possible from the time the user uploaded it. I don't know if this qualifies as Real time search.
My application has two models
Posts
PostItems
I index posts by including data from post items so that a when a user searches based on certain description provided in a post_item record the corresponding post object is made available in the search.
Users frequently update post_items so every time a new post_item is added I need to reindex the corresponding post object so that the new post_item will be available during search.
So at the moment whenever I receive a new post_item object I run
post_item.post.solr_index! #
which according to this documentation instantly updates the index and commits. This works but is this the right way to handle indexing in this scenario? I read here that calling index while searching may break solr. Also frequent manual index calls are not the way to go.
Any suggestions on the right way to do this. Are there alternatives other than switching to ElasticSearch
try to use this gem https://github.com/bdurand/sunspot_index_queue
you will than be able to batch reindex, let's say, every minute, and it definitely will not brake an index
If you are just starting out and have the luxury to choose between Solr and ElasticSearch, go with ElasticSearch.
We use Solr in production and have run into many weird issues as the index and search volume grew. The conclusion was Solr was built/optimzed for indexing huge documents(word/pdf content) and in large numbers(billions?) but updating the index once a day or a couple of days when nobody is searching.
It was a wrong choice for consumer Rails application where documents are small, small in numbers( in millions) updates are random and continuous and the search needs to be somewhat real time( a delay of 5-10 sec is fine).
Some of the tricks we applied to tune the server.
removed all commits (i.e., !) from rails code,
use Solr auto-commit every 5/20 seconds,
have master/slave configuration,
run index optimization(on Master) every 1 hour
and more.
and we still see high CPU usage on slaves when the commit triggers. As a result some searches take a long time(> 60 seconds at times).
Also I doubt if the batching indexing sunspot_index_queue gem can remedy the high CPU issue.