What happens when you call read() with length that is too large? - c

What happens when you call read() (or recv()) on an open socket, and you specify a length that is more the number of bytes ready to be read in the buffer (TCP) or the length of the next datagram (UDP)?

In both cases, if the size of the buffer is larger than the amount of available data, what data is available is read and the number of bytes actually read are returned from the function. That return value is what you should use when operating on the data.

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read buff in tcp socket

I read How large should my recv buffer be when calling recv in the socket library in order to understand buffer in read. There are yet some points that i wish to know about read buffer in tcp socket connection.
My application is sending video packets. when i set buff to 80000 sender could send the packets but when i set it less for example 8000 after sending few packets it stops with RST.
a)Is this buffer, TCP receive window?
b)Is there any relation between this buffer and .net.ipv4.tcp_rmem , .net.ipv4.tcp_wmem ?if yes, Should i set read buffer based on rmem or wmem?
I would greatly appreciate any responses
a)Is this buffer, TCP receive window?
No, it is just a buffer that you provide for the TCP stack to place bytes into when you call recv().
b)Is there any relation between this buffer and .net.ipv4.tcp_rmem ,
.net.ipv4.tcp_wmem?
No.
if yes, Should i set read buffer based on rmem or women?
You can pass any size buffer you want to recv(); it is unrelated to any of the above, except that there isn't any benefit to making the buffer you pass to recv() larger than the socket's current SO_RCVBUF size, since it's unlikely that recv() would ever return more bytes at once than can be present in the socket's internal buffer.
As for how to decide what size buffer to use -- consider that a larger buffer will (of course) take up more memory, and if you are allocating that buffer on the stack, a very large buffer might cause a stack overflow. On the other hand, a smaller buffer means that you can read fewer bytes with any given call to recv(), so you may have to call recv() more times to read in the same total number of bytes.
Note that number of bytes of data returned by recv() may be any number from 1 byte up to the total size of the buffer that you passed in to recv()'s third argument, and there is no way to predict how many bytes you'll get. In particular, with TCP the number of bytes you receive from any particular call to recv() will not have any correlation to the number of bytes previously passed to any particular call to send() on the sending side. So you just need to use a "reasonably sized" array (for whatever definition of "reasonably sized" you prefer) and recv() as many bytes into it as possible, and then handle that many bytes (based on recv()'s return value).

Linux read function implementation

I wanted to know how does read() function work when a socket descriptor is passed to it and when a file descriptor is passed to it. In case of file descriptor, it always returns n bytes as specified, or less if there are no n bytes. However in case of a socket descriptor, it's not necessary it will return n bytes. So in order to make sure if we have received n bytes, we'll have to put an application logic and keep count of how many bytes we have received and terminate when the count is n. My question is, why don't we have to put an application logic when we are reading from a file?
Read read(2) man page:
man 2 read
You'll better assume that it always may return a byte count less that the entire buffer you passed to it (in particular, because it could be difficult to know if the file descriptor refers to a socket, a tty, some other device, a pipe, a fifo, or some plain file, and also because you could have some file systems with non-POSIX compliant semantics). You also might have reached the end of file (EOF), etc...
For TCP sockets, remember that they only are a stream of bytes, and a given single send may be received in several reads, etc etc... In particular, message chunks could be split/reassembled by "the network" (e.g. routers).
For plain files, remember that some other process could change it (e.g. write into it, truncate it, etc..) while your process is reading it.

Can I free my data immediately after send() in blocking mode?

the docs say for send:
When the message does not fit into the send buffer of the socket,
send() normally blocks, unless the socket has been placed in non-block-
ing I/O mode. In non-blocking mode it would return EAGAIN in this
case. The select(2) call may be used to determine when it is possible
to send more data.
I am in blocking mode, doing something along the lines of:
buf = malloc(size);
send (socket, buf, size);
free(buf)
Assume but is very large, larger than the buffer can hold at a time (so it would need to go into the buffer as two chunks lets say). Anyways, in blocking mode, which I'm in, after send, can I feel safe that the data is fully copied or dealt with and thus deletable?
In blocking mode, send blocks until I/O is complete, or an error is triggered. You should check the returned value, because a send operation does not guarantee that the number of bytes sent is the same number of bytes passed as third argument.
Only when send returns a value equal to the size of the buffer sent you can be sure that the whole block has been copied into kernel memory, or passed through device memory, or sent to the destination.
The short answer is: Yes, you can free the buffer after the send() call successfully returns (without errors) when the file descriptor is in blocking mode.
The reason for this is based on the blocking concept itself: The send() call (targeting a blocking file descriptor) will only return when an error occur or the requested size bytes of the data in the buf is buffered or transmitted by the underlying layer of the operating system (typically the kernel).
Also note that a successful return of send() doesn't mean that the data was transmitted. It means that it was, at least, buffered by the underlying layer.

Linux read() minimum data amount

When using read() syscall in Linux for reading from whatever source (file, socket, pipe), is there a minimum data amount that can be returned (in blocking mode)? Or can the syscall even return 1 byte?
When I want to read a single int (4 or 8 bytes) from a pipe, do I still need to check the return value of read() to see if I received less than sizeof(int) bytes?
There is no minimum, except on block mode devices where the minimum is the block size.
You should always check the return value; things can break, you should plan for breakage and handle short reads and errors appropriately instead of assuming the other side is always perfect.

How to read UDP packet with variable length in C

I'm sending a C struct over UDP
struct packet{
int numInt;
int* intList; //malloc'ed as (sizeof(int)*numInt)
}
It will be serialized as [numInt][intList[0]]...[intList[numInt-1]].
My understanding is that calling recvfrom on UDP will read the entire packet, even if the buffer doesn't hold that many bytes. Is using a really large buffer the only option I have?
You could pass MSG_PEEK to recvfrom to find out exactly how big the buffer needs to be. So just recvfrom a few bytes with MSG_PEEK to find numInt and then recvfrom the real thing (this time without MSG_PEEK).
The standard says something about MSG_PEEK, but kernel.org spells it better:
MSG_PEEK
This flag causes the receive operation to return data from the
beginning of the receive queue without removing that data from the
queue. Thus, a subsequent receive call will return the same data.
Obviously at some point you will start wondering if doubling the number of system calls to save memory is worth it. I think it isn't.
UDP packets are sent and received as a whole. if you receive it, the size is right. The only thing you have to do is to supply a big enough buffer on read() or recv() or recfrom(). The length field inside the payload is redundant, since the read() will tell you the correct size. It is also dangerous, since it relies on the sender and reciever having the same byte order.
You could try using a small buffer, just large enough to get numInt, with the MSG_PEEK flag set. Then you can find out the size you actually need, and receive again without MSG_PEEK to get the whole thing.
I'm pretty sure recvfrom will read up to as many bytes as is told to it by its 3rd argument, len. If there are fewer bytes available, it will return what is there. If there are more, it will return up to len bytes. You may have to make additional calls to obtain all the data your are expecting.

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