Is a 0$ spending limit valid and what does it mean ? According to some online articles this limit means you're using free quota only which is backed up by a message when you set the limit: "You are using free quota". However gcp support gave me contradictory answers, one saying the limit "does not work" and one saying 0$ means unlimited.
Edit:
Support1:
The way our spending limits are set up needs to be above $0, our
spending limit will not work if you do not have an amount set up above
$0, that's why the project was not stopped.
Support2:
it has been confirmed that setting a $0 as a Spending limit would be
the same as No Limits on your Spending limitations
They do indeed hint at the same thing, however the
You are using the free quota
message is confusing me.
There are different kinds of limits applied for App Engine usage. According to this link,
Spending Limit is different from the Free Quotas.
Free quotas: Every application gets an amount of each resource for free. Free quotas can only be exceeded by paid applications, up to the application's spending limit or the safety limit, whichever applies first.
Spending limits: If you are the project owner and the billing administrator, you can set the spending limit to manage application costs in the Google Cloud Platform Console in the App Engine Settings. Spending limits might be exceeded slightly as the application is disabled.
The free quota is consumed first before being incurred with costs. Once you have exceeded the free quota, the pricing and usage cost will start to apply and the spending limit will be checked from this point forward.
If you set the Spending Limit to $0, this will be equivalent to limitless spending.
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I am confused... Probably because I am not very smart.
As I understand it:
1. Free Trial gives certain allowance(300 USD) to be used up in 60 days.
2. Free Quota gives daily allowance of free usage to (all?) app engine resources.
Did I understand these two things correctly? What is the relationship between these? Is free quota still being offered? Are there dependencies between these two(if I sign up for free trial, would I lose free quota after the trial ends in 60 days)?
Yes, you got them right. They aren't really related.
The free quotas are still offered. They don't expire and they apply regardless if the app is in the free trial or not. They may get revised now and then, though. From Billable limits and safety limits:
Free quotas: Every application gets an amount of each resource for free. Free quotas can only be exceeded by paid applications, up to the
application's spending limit or the safety limit, whichever applies
first.
The free trial has a limited lifespan and simply covers the billed costs of the paid apps (during that limited lifetime) up to that 300 USD amount.
I'm getting the following exception from a query that was working just fine up until a few moments ago:
OverQuotaError: The API call datastore_v3.RunQuery() required more quota than is available.
However, in the quota details it's not showing us as being over any quotas related to the datastore:
Any idea what might be causing this OverQuotaError?
When using Datastore, you should make sure that your App Engine budget is also able to handle any Datastore usage above the Free Quota.
In particular, it looks like you are at 50K Datastore Read operations for the day. This is the maximum amount of daily free quota you receive for read operations. At this point any billable operations must be within your App Engine Budget. You can follow the instructions on the quotas page for increasing your daily budget, which will allow you to exceed the Datastore free quota.
I'm receiving this error on our App:
The API call datastore_v3.Put() required more quota than is available.
However when I check out our quotas page, nothing is flagging as being over quota (or even close). We have billing enabled, we're not at our daily budget ($2 to test that it's not that - although normally $0) and these errors have been showing for over a minute (so I don't expect that it's the per-minute limits).
How can an API call fail due to being over quota, if everything seems to show that we're not over quota?
Budgets for API calls take a while to kick in. In this case, the project had hit the free limit for datastore operations (0.05M), however the increased daily budget had only just been enabled and so the app was still unable to use more of the operations.
This problem solved was solved after a couple of hours.
For others experiencing this issue, you can find the datastore free quotas here. Compare your current usage on the view in the question to these limits. If it looks like you've gone over then re-assess where your daily budget is (or whether you need so many datastore calls!).
do i get 50 thousand free writing operation if I enabling billing, according to this picture that taken from https://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas?hl=iw
I can't see that:
See billable limits, where it says:
Every application gets an amount of each resource for free, but application administrators can increase these quotas by enabling paid apps and setting a daily budget. You will be charged for the resources your application actually uses, and for the amount of resources used above the free quota thresholds.
So yes, you get 50k free write ops per day.
When I try to enable billing in app engine for using blob store, I found a notice for Minimum Spend $2.10 Per Week.
The Minimum spend subtotal is in support of our new pricing model. The new model requires that you spend at least $2.10/week. This subtotal indicates the value beyond your other spend that we need to add to your contract. To make the transition to the new model smoother we are beginning to account for this minimum when we authorize new budget changes. Please note that you will not be charged for the minimum spend until our new model takes effect.
I search online and found no one ask about it. I use app engine just for a school assignment, so the usage won't be excess free quota. So, Must I pay $2.10 per week even I do not excess free quota? It sounds unreasonable.
As of April 2013, "We’re happy to announce that billing-enabled applications will no longer be required to spend a minimum of $2.10 per week. This means that you can enable billing for a free tier application and continue running within the free tier without concern that a spike in traffic will terminate serving (note that you can always specify a daily dollar budget). The minimum spend was originally intended to prevent abuse and ensure that we can offer a stable, reliable system with a free tier. We have determined that we can continue to support the free tier, without relying on the minimum spend. So, goodbye $2.10!"
Google has removed the $2.10/week for billing-enabled application from now onwards. You can enable billing for a free tier application and continue running within the free tier without concern that a spike in traffic will terminate serving.
http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2013/04/app-engine-177-released.html
I enabled billing because I needed to add Google Cloud SQL. The notice said that minimal Cloud SQL was free for now. We're still in early development and aren't using any resources, so we're not over the quota for anything. I don't think I was ever advised by any page that I'd be billed even if under the free thresholds. In fact, I think one of the pages explicitly said I would not be.
It really isn't a lot of money. Probably not even if you add all the users who have been deceptively billed together, so it probably won't attract any lawyers. But unless I missed some notice (and even if I did if that notice was intentionally hidden) this is legally wrong, as well as ethically so.
It appears that their "new" system hasn't gone into effect yet so I would go ahead and use it. Besides, $2/week compared to the $150/book that I just spend isn't that bad. =/
As for enabling billing it appears that unless you need the new (per 1.5.3 version) unlimited blobstore then you should be fine with the free limits.