SEO aspect about client side routing with angularjs or vuejs - angularjs

Using a client side routing server side doesn't forge entire page to serve a client, but datas are downloaded from webapp "on demand".
So, in this scenario, if you see html code you could see something like this below:
<body>
<div class="blah">{{content}}</div>
</body>
I know that prerender strategy can be used and i think that probably google crawler is very smarty and can see contents anyway, but the question is:
is it good this approach on seo side?
Using prerender strategy server needs to generate page with content. Could be that a penalty in page speed factor?
Thank you in advance to everyone.

As you've mentioned google is pretty smart and from a recent experience, is able to fetch some of your site's static content even when using client-side rendering. However when it comes to client-side routing it's not quite there yet so if you need to have SEO, server side rendering frameworks like nuxt.js should be your go-to.
but datas are downloaded from webapp "on demand"
The same thing applies when you do asynchronous fetches (download on demand as you've described it), imagine the data inside your {{ content }} was coming from an external API, as far as I'm concerned no crawler at this time is able to deal with this, so your content area would just be empty. So generally speaking, when SEO is an requirement, so is server-side rendering.
Using prerender strategy server needs to generate page with content.
Could be that a penalty in page speed factor?
Yes and no. Load times will certainly go up a little, but when using client-side rendering, the client needs to render the page after loading it, so this time just gets shifted to your server. This applies again to asynchronous data fetching. The delivery of the site will take longer, but the data it has to fetch will already be there, so the client wont have to do it (SSR frameworks allow you to fetch data and render it before sending the site to the client). If you accumulate everything, there shouldn't be a huge difference in time from sending the request to actually seeing the rendered page in your browser.

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How is server-side rendering compatible with single-page applications?

My problem is that I'm unable to understand how server-side rendering single-page application frameworks like Next.js receive prerendered, full HTML on the front end without having to rewrite the entire page. For example, the nextjs website states the following:
By default, Next.js pre-renders every page. This means that Next.js generates HTML for each page in advance, instead of having it all done by client-side JavaScript. Pre-rendering can result in better performance and SEO.
Each generated HTML is associated with minimal JavaScript code necessary for that page. When a page is loaded by the browser, its JavaScript code runs and makes the page fully interactive. (This process is called hydration.)
I understand how this bolsters the responsiveness of an SPA on first page load. But after that first load, what makes server-side rendering compatible with SPAs? I think this arises from a fundamental misunderstanding that I can't catch, so here are some further questions I have that might help you to catch it:
Do SSR SPAs always respond with full prerendered HTML, or only for first page loads?
If the former is true, then on subsequent responses, how does the client efficiently render only the difference rather than rewriting the whole page?
Otherwise, if the latter is true, then how does an SSR SPA backend tell when it's responding to a first request, when the response should be the whole HTML, versus a subsequent request, when the bulk of the page is already there and all that needs to be sent is some relatively minimal information?
What am I misunderstanding about what makes SSR compatible with SPAs?
Many thanks in advance to everyone who tackles this question!
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Usually SSR is used for initial rendering of the page, so for the first question - for the first page load
This is necessary, so the SPA will be more SEO-compatible (there also might be some performance improvements with this, but it's usually secondary goal) and Search Engine bots will be able to parse pages without the need for JS
The SSR usually has several important steps:
Server render
Sending of rendered data to browser
Hydration. Hydration - is a ReactJS (since we're talking about next.js here) 'function' that binds the server-rendered HTML to the React on the Frontend. So basically binds server-rendered DOM to virtualDOM
After the hydration step you basically have a fully-functional normal SPA, which has it's own routing and able to fetch data on itself.
Usually you have different endpoint on the BE to fetch the data and to render the page. So basically the rendering process on the BE is somewhat similar to what you have on the FE - your application backend fetches the data from separate endpoints, applies all of the logic and renders the app.
Btw, to ensure that SSR works properly, there is a principle called 'Isomorphic code' - i.e. if you're using a library for data fetching, it has to support both node.js and browser APIs. That's why, for example, you'd have to use Next.js own Router when you have a Next.js application - it just works on both FE and BE unlike react-router, which would require some additional steps to achieve that

Headless SPA Server Side approach with Content Management Sysstem

I am evaluating how is it possible to implement Server Side Rendering in SPA app with React and CMS as backend.
This is the approach I see Next.js suggest to have per-rendered and all most all CMS system suggests:
User request a page from react app running on Node server
Node server requests JSON data from CMS through fetch call
Then React App reads this JSON and transform HTML into String like renderToString() and sends the response back to the user.
The disadvantage of this approach is that if JSON data from CMS is huge then first request takes long time.
What alternate solution do you suggest?
Heyooo, Contentful DevRel here. 👋🏻
your concerns are absolutely valid.
And that's why Next.js just recently added advanced static pre-generation using getStaticProps. The goal is to tackle the long dynamic response times by pre-generating as much as possible. This way the user has a fast initial content paint, but can still enjoy all the dynamic benefits that come with a React application (Next.js usually follows an isomorphic JavaScript architecture)
The processing time you describe then is moved from dynamic request/response time into build-processes.
In general, when you're not dealing with millions of pages, I recommend giving static HTML a try. It makes applications often faster, safer, and more secure. For more complext and larger sites, Vercel is also experimenting with hybrid solutions that offer ways to only pre-generate certain pages. That's all very new though. :)

What is the point of server side rendering in React/Redux?

What is the point of server side rendering in React/Redux?
It would seem to me that another level of complexity is being added to the software, but I don't really see the benefit of it.
What are some common use cases for server side rendering?
React's SSR (Server Side Rendering) offers some benefits over CSR (Client Side Rendering):
1. Improved (Perceived) performance at the client side
Obviously, rendered components are shown to the user right away without the need to wait for browser to render. The website won't be interactive until all React code are loaded and executed, but the perceived performance is improved by showing content to users ASAP.
2. Better SEO
Since content are rendered at the server side, search engine crawlers can see the rendered content instead of just a blank page with JS tags.
Note: Google crawler supports JavaScript rendering, not sure about other Search Engines though.
Interms of complexity - yes, SSR introduced extra complexity but there's always a tradeoff for each technical decision.
The whole point of so called Universal apps or "Isomorphic JavaScript" is its "write once, run everywhere" kind of motto. Meaning that you wouldn't need to maintain a specific backend project and a specific frontend project differing in techniques and instead consolidate a whole JavaScript project into one.
It's not quite as dandy as you'd think because you still need to maintain a backend specific part that handles the initial GET request.
Furthermore you also leverage the Single Page nature of an application whilst getting the server side first page load making your website 100% crawlable by the Googs, even though Google now crawls SPAs quite competently currently.
As for complexity - it could be as complex or as simple as you would want to, I guess. Not everything is solved by doing a "Universal app" nor is everything solved by doing a standard web app either.

What does "isomorphic React" mean?

I was going through React tutorials and on the web I saw a lot about isomorphic React. Just got confused on what it is and how it works.
My understanding is that "isomorphic React" is an application is that it loads all the data required at start-up and then it keeps rendering on the client side as per user's request, holding the complete data in store (Redux architecture).
Now what if I have a scenario like I need to load my complete HTML form using webservice from a 3rd party application where I get the data from it as a json (schema of what fields need to be rendered on the screen) and upon performing some action I need to send the request back so that I will get some other schema to load it as my next screen.
In this scenario how do I use isomorphic, as every time I need to make a server call or an ajax call (which I do not like to do as it might expose the APIs).
So in this case can I say this application as isomorphic or my understanding with regard to isomorphic is completely wrong?
Isomorphic: "corresponding or similar in form or relations".
With regard to web apps, this means that the server is somehow similar to the client - in the sense that the server is capable of rendering as much as the client. In a way, isomorphic web apps are a return to the old paradigm where the server would render data and then send it pre-rendered to the client (think PHP templates or Ruby erb).
Specifically with isomorphic React, this means that the server renders the initial HTML for the client using React components and React.renderToString(). This eliminates double work such as having erb templates on the server side when using Rails but then using Handlebars for client-side templates and also avoid the FOUC. You can just use React for everything.
Now, if you're using a 3rd party service, you'd just use the json data as usual. What would make your app isomorphic or not would be whether your own server uses the same templating engine as your front-end. Any third party services you might consume have no bearing on whether your app is isomorphic or not.
Understand Isomorphic at high level.
Server driven world : In this world, when user open a page in the browser, there are lot of interaction happened between client(browser) and server. In order to load page in the browser, the browser and server go to work by sending request and rendering to provide a webpage to the user. In this world, server was in charge of rendering each page in response to user interaction. For example; if user click on submit button then request goes to server with the data user entered in the form and in response server will return the new HTML with data to the browser to show next screen. Here server is responsible for UI too along with business logic and data model. This approach has many advantage and disadvantage.
Client driven world or Single page application world
In this world, webpage rendering responsibility was handed over to the client (browser) and server was responsible mostly for business logic and data model. This again has lot of advantage and some disadvantage.
Client side and server side rendering world each has its own benefits and 'Isomorphic JavaScript’ is the way to obtain the best of both the worlds.
And React is a framework to provide isomorphic support out of the box.

Single Server request per page vs SPA Application

I had the idea to make a SPA application using angularJS and then just sending AJAX updates to the server when I need.
My initial idea would be make the client application fly, but if I have to do an AJAX round trip to the server, I think the time would be approximately the same as to request a single web page.
Requesting a page just has more bytes of data, is not like I'm requesting 20 resources like in this article: https://community.compuwareapm.com/community/display/PUB/Best+Practices+on+Network+Requests+and+Roundtrips
I would be requesting a page or resource per request.
So in the end even if I create my client side application as a SPA using angularJS, these requests (would have to be synchronous and show a please wait message while they don't return, as I don't want to user to take more actions before I make sure his request passes validation and is processed correctly) would take some time and make user wait, just about the same time as requesting a full page.
I think SPA pages would be very useful if I have like a wizard on my app with multiple pages/steps and at the end, submit the results of wizard, to the server, which I don't.
Also found this article:
https://help.optimizely.com/hc/en-us/articles/203326524-AngularJS-Backbone-js-and-other-Single-Page-Applications
One of the biggest advantages of Single Page Apps is that they reduce
data transfer. As a result, pages after the initial loading usually
can be displayed faster and seem more interactive.
But I don't believe this last quote is really true.
Am I right, or is there a way that I'm not seeing to build an application that would look like it's executing locally?
I know how guys will start saying "depends on what you want", but lets focus on this scenario where there's no wizards.
What ever you said is right. But most of the frameworks(Angular,BackBone) you take they are going to cache the templates of html on the browser so the rendering would be pretty fast compared to the normal applications. Traditional apps will have to fetch the html from the server for each request which is a time consuming one.
Hope this helps you!!!
If you are wanting to go through that syncronous server side validation step for each page request, then there is probably no big advantage to using AngularJS.
If you are requesting a page and then manipulating that page's contents once it's loaded you might want to consider AngularJS. A good example would be requesting a page that displays a list of items. Now let's say we want to search that list or order it in different ways. Rather than using AJAX to call the server to filter the list and then re-render it, it could be much faster to user AngularJS to filter and re-render the list without making any further requests to the server.

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