Im creating a Node.js website that probably won't have loads of traffic, and was looking into cheap solutions to host the site. Came across Google cloud services offering free usage for their services with limits. A f1-mirco is more than enough for my needs, but I will happily pay for some usage if it goes over by any chance.
I wanted to setup a linux centOS 7 on GCE (which I already did), and run my application and REST API on it. Now here comes the problem.
I tried to use Google's datastore service, but it sprung an app engine instance and without it datastore won't work.
Is datastore entirely relying on app engine to function?? In the docs, it said if you use any of the client API, it requires app engine. What can I do to not use the client api and query data then? Don't want to use the app engine at the moment or datastore is just not for me then?
Thanks for any help!
Some of the underlying infrastructure of Cloud Datastore and App Engine are still tied together for creation, etc. So while creating an Cloud Datastore database also defines an App Engine instance for the project, it doesn't require you to use it. You don't get charged for App Engine either, unless you decide to deploy an App using it.
You should be totally fine use the Google Cloud Node client library on the f1 micro instance.
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I can't find any documentation on how gcp scheduler works under the hood. An App Engine is needed in the project, so I assume that the Http calls or Pub/Sub messages are started from the App Engine.
Currently I can use a cloud scheduler even without an App Engine in the project. Apparently a compute engine that also contains a permanently running VM is also sufficient. Could someone confirm my assumptions please or does anyone have sources on this?
I can't tell you how work Cloud Scheduler under the hood. I can just tell you that works well!
I'm sure there is a VM, or a cluster of VM, on Google serverless environment, and your Cloud Scheduler job is set on it. It's serverless, the under the hood doesn't matter, it works, and it's what I want!
Now, the relation with App Engine can be confusing. In fact, there is no longer relation between the product now, but you need the App Engine API activated on your project to use Cloud Scheduler. This strange things is normal if you have been using Google Cloud for a while. At the beginning, only App Engine existed, and Datastore, Cloud Task, Cloud Scheduler was all "modules" of App Engine. Years, after years, google has refactored and extracted these modules to create independent products, as you can see them today. However, some relations are still present, like the API activation.
I was able to create the basic 'hello world' program.
When I tried to understand the difference between a cloud and a server I learned that Cloud is where you have an access to virtual instance created exclusively for you and you are free to choose and install software of your choice.Why Google App Engine(GAE) is used widely where as tomcat is not used. What are major differences between GAE and Tomcat?
Cloud is Google Cloud Platform at this case. App Engine is just one of their services.
App Engine is a platform to build your apps on top of it. A Platform As A Service or PaaS. It simplifies the process of building a scalable application, and you should use it when you understand what you really need and understand principles of scalable application.
Tomcat is a Java web container, and there're many alternatives. Google App Engine is using Jetty. You could actually use it with Tomcat by using Flexible VM, though it doesn't make much sense.
App Engine is not about web server, it's a set of services that helps you to build a scalable app. It includes Memcache, Datastore, Task Queue, Images API, deployments tools and versioning, CDN for static files, and most important automatic scale.
Actually you aren't limited to App Engine on Google Cloud Platform. There is more traditional service, like own server in the cloud, called Compute Engine. There you can run your Tomcat or anything else.
I am very newly in google app engine.. There are three Questoins on google app engine and in google app engine i want to choose JAVA language.
Does google app engine provide private cloude ?
I want to deploy my application with my own server( E.x.glassfish or JBoss) on google app engine ?
I want to use my own database instead of cloud SQL in google app engine?
Is it possible or not?
With Google Cloud Appengine - no, it's impossible.
With Google Cloud Instances or Google Cloud Containers - all of this is possible.
Appengine is just one piece of Google Cloud, designed for very specific job, with infrastructure managed by Google. You can only write some code (with lot of restrictions too) that runs inside it. You can read some details about code restritions there: https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/java/#Java_The_sandbox
What you're looking for is Google Cloud Instances, that are more standard virtual machines, where you can run anything you want. See https://cloud.google.com/compute/
There is still tools for Load Balancing, Health Check, Centralized Logging for Cloud Instances, and other stuff similar to features provided by Appengine.
What is better to code with php in google app engine or in amazon-ec2.
I think it is better in amazon-ec2 because they support datastore with php and google app engine doesn't, what do you think ?
While its not possible to access the appengine datastore, google has a new preview service for "cloud datastore", google "cloud datastore from php" and you will see how to use it.
You really cant compare AWS with appengine as one requires managing servers and scalability manually and their noSQL solution (dynamoDB) is a joke compared to google's datastore, for example in dynamoDB you must provision your writes beforehand and even if you are all day changing provisioning, it takes sometimes hours to propagate the new setting.
I had never use Google App Engine, but several times AWS systems, and sure, as AWS EC2 could be used as Linux Server Instance, I recommend you that provider. And coz' it seems that you use PHP, they have strong API for this langage. Have fun with AWS.
I am pretty new to this whole idea of cloud and started of with Google app engine. I was able to create the basic 'hello world' program.
When i tried to understand the difference between a cloud and a server I learned that Cloud is where you have an access to virtual instance created exclusively for you and you are free to choose and install software of your choice.
But I don't see such an option with Google-cloud/app-engine. What if I have a tom-cat based application server which I would like to deploy on a cloud? Will Google app engine be of any help or should I try other cloud service providers such as Amazon EC2, hp cloud etc?
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The cloud type that you are referring to is called Infrastructure as a Service cloud.
OTOH, Google App Engine is Platform as a Service cloud.
The difference is that IaaS are a bunch of virtual machines that you need to setup yourself (OS + app stack), while PaaS typically comes with it's own API, where you write your app against the API and the rest (sw stack + scalability) is taken care of.
AppEngine comes with it's own servlet container (Tomcat is also a servlet container), so from this standpoint you could use your code on AppEngine. But the problem lies elsewhere: AppEngine imposes a set of limitation on the apps:
app must use GAE provided databases.
app can not write to filesystem
app can not have listening sockets
requests must finish in 60 seconds (e.g. no Comet or WebSockets -> no push)
You might want to review the FAQ.
To add to Peter's excellent answer, note that Google also has an IaaS service called Google Compute Engine.
Regarding other cloud query-
Before you start with cloud you might once try other options. Currently deploying application in almost all services are very easy.
few of them are-
Jelastic , Heroku , rackspace , nimbus , openshift etc.
Difference between cloud and server is very well explained already.
Since you mentioned about tomcat based application , I have worked with Jelastic for the same and found very easy to implement.
http://jelastic.com/docs/tomcat
http://jelastic.com/tomcat-hosting
Try all possible option , it will help you more .