I'm trying to cross-compile an SSH-server to port it on an home-made OS, using newlib (because the OS uses a lib which is based on newlib).
I got some troubles with the RedHat Newlib, and I was wondering if I can do my porting with another library (for example uclibc) ?
Is there differences between this 3 "libc" interfaces (libc, newlib, and uclibc) ?
GNU libc (glibc) includes ISO C, POSIX, System V, and XPG interfaces. uClibc provides ISO C, POSIX and System V, while Newlib provides only ISO C.
While you might be able to port other libraries, they have specific OS dependencies. Unless your OS itself is POSIX compliant, it will probably be an unrealistic prospect.
Even with Newlib, it is your responsibility to implement the syscalls appropriately to support devices, file-systems and memory management.
main difference is the size of the library, uclibc and newlib are focused on embedded systems so they want to be small and fast, while glibc is focused in full functionality.
so basically there might not be all functions in the embedded versions, but the standard c interfaces should be same in all c libraries. the datatypes might be different, especially names of fields in a structures are often not standardized.
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uClibc (or uClibc-ng) is stated as a C library for embedded Linux systems. The documentation cites Linux everywhere and say the library is very carefully optimized for Linux.
Although the library has been specially developed to be used in Linux, is it also useful to other systems? Is there any restrictions one needs to know when using the library with other OSes?
I was wondering whether anybody here could help me better understand the relationship between OSX and C. There's some developer information related to C++ in xcode but nothing for C.
I believe one fundamental difference is that osx uses libc as opposed to glibc. Can anybody point me to libc documentation? I can't seem to find any.
I've seen the usr/includes folder but all that does is make me wonder where I can get a reference that elucidates all the options available to me. For instance, I just discovered <tree.h>. That's all well and good but is there any documentation? Or do I need to trawl the includes folder?
It seems that you're asking whether the functionality that OSX provides to you as a programmer is partially different from other *nix systems; focusing on the functionality that OSX's implementation of the C Standard Library provides you with.
Now keep in mind that while the C Standard Library is a very common way to take advantage of the functionality the operating system kernel exposes, it's not the only way. You can use other low-level libraries, or write low-level functions yourself.
Having said that, consider the following:
OSX, like many other *nix systems, is "mostly POSIX-compliant". Meaning that its particular C Standard Library implementation will likely expose headers defined by the POSIX standard. This is the stuff you can rely on regardless of whether you use libc, glibc, or some other implementation of the C Standard Library.
Depending on the particular C Standard Library you're using, it might come with additional functionality, like BSD libc - we say "superset of the POSIX Standard Library" to that. While it can contain implementations of things specific to BSD (and therefore OSX), it mostly seems to contain things that can be implemented regardless of the operating system flavour. For example, the sys/tree.h header that you mention is "an implementation of Red-black tree and Splay tree" - by no means something that couldn't have been implemented on a Linux system!
To sum up:
OSX comes with an implementation of the C Standard Library called BSD libc that provides some additional headers on top of what the POSIX Standard defines.
The difference in functionality between the XNU kernel used by OSX and other *nix kernels will not necessarily be captured in the difference between the C Standard Library implementations. If you want to know what the XNU kernel can do for you that the Linux kernel can't, the place to start is with the kernels themselves.
So your question can be split into:
What is the difference between glibc and BSD libc?
and
What is the difference between the XNU kernel and the Linux kernel?
It's a bit unclear what you're asking.
OS X is based on top of FreeBSD, a POSIX-compliant UNIX operating system. The relationship between OS X and C is that C is one of many programming languages that you can code in to develop for the platform (C is the core of Objective-C, an otherwise unused language that Apple champions).
OS X doesn't use libc. clang, the compiler that ships as part of Apple's developer tools package for OS X, uses libc. There's a difference. If you want to use glib, grab GCC from Homebrew or Macports and use it to compile your programs instead of clang.
Lastly, you can't find documentation for libc, as all C libraries, like libc, glibc, etc, all provide the same set of functions if they are standards-compliant. There tend to be few differences end-user-wise between the different C libraries; so, if you want to find out about a header file, use man, like this: man clang to read clang documentation, for example.
Hope this helps.
Ok here's the thing.
Most people learn about the C standard library simultaneously as they first get in contact with the C language and I wasn't an exception either. But as I am studying linux now, I tend to get confused with C libraries. well first, I know that you get a nice old C standard lib as you install gcc on your linux distro as a static lib. After that, you get a new stable version of glibc pretty soon as you connect to the internet.
I started to look into glibc API and here's where I got messed up. glibc seems to support vast amount of lib basically starting from POSIX C Standard lib (which implements the standard C lib(including C99 as I know of)) to it's own extensions based on the POSIX standard C lib.
Does this mean that glibc actually modified or added functions in the POSIX C Standard lib? or even add whole new header set? Cause I see some functions that are not in the standard C lib but actually included in the standard C header (such as strnlen() in
Also referring to what I mentioned about a 'glibc making whole new header set', is because I'm starting to see some header files that seems pretty unique such as linux/blahblah.h or sys/syscalls.h <= (are these the libs that only glibc support?)
Next Ques is that I actually heard linux is built based on C language. Does this mean linux compiles itself with it's own gcc compiler???????
For the first question, glibc follows both standard C and POSIX, from About glibc
The GNU C Library is primarily designed to be a portable and high performance C library. It follows all relevant standards including ISO C11 and POSIX.1-2008. It is also internationalized and has one of the most complete internationalization interfaces known.
For the second question, yes, you can compile Linux using gcc. Even gcc itself can be compiled using gcc, it's called bootstrapping.
Glibc implements the POSIX, ANSI and ISO C standards, and adds its own 'fluff', which it calls "glibc extensions". The reason that they are all "mixed together" is because they wrote the library as one package, there is no separate POSIX-only glibc.
<linux/blah> is not part of glibc. It is a set headers written specifically for the operating system, by people outside of glibc, to give the programmer access to the Linux kernel API. It is "part" of the Linux kernel and is installed with it, and is used for kernel hacking. <sys/blah> is part of glibc, and is specific to Linux. It gives access to a fairly abstracted Linux system API.
As for your second question, yes. Linux is written in C, as it is (according to Linus) the only programming language for kernel and system programming. The way this is done is through a technique called bootstrapping, where a small compiler is built (usually manually in ASM) and builds the entire kernel or the entirety of GCC.
There is one more thing to be aware of: one of the purposes of the libc is to abstract from the actual system kernel. As such, the libc is the one part of your app that is kernel specific. If you had a different kernel with different syscalls, you would need to have a specially compiled libc. AFAIK, the libc is therefore usually linked as a shared library.
On linux, we usually have the glibc installed, because linux systems usually are GNU/Linux systems with a GNU toolchain on top of the linux kernel.
And yes, the glibc does expand the standards in certain spots: The asprintf() function for instance originated as a gnu-addition. It almost made it into the C11 standard subsequently, but until it becomes part of them, it's use will require a glibc-based system, or statically linking with the glibc.
By default, the glibc headers do not define these gnu additions. You can switch them on by defining the preprocessor macro GNU_SOURCE before including the appropriate headers, or by specifying -std=gnu11 to the gcc call.
As per my understanding, C libraries must be distributed along with compilers. For example, GCC must be distributing it's own C library and Forte must be distributing it's own C library. Is my understanding correct?
But, can a user library compiled with GCC work with Forte C library? If both the C libraries are present in a system, which one will get invoked during run time?
Also, if an application is linking to multiple libraries some compiled with GCC and some with Forte, will libraries compiled with GCC automatically link to the GCC C library and will it behave likewise for Forte.
GCC comes with libgcc which includes helper functions to do things like long division (or even simpler things like multiplication on CPUs with no multiply instruction). It does not require a specific libc implementation. FreeBSD uses a BSD derived one, glibc is very popular on Linux and there are special ones for embedded systems like avr-libc.
Systems can have many libraries installed (libc and other) and the rules for selecting them vary by OS. If you link statically it's entirely determined at compile time. If you link dynamically there are versioning and path rules which come into play. Generally you cannot mix and match at runtime because of bits of the library (from headers) that got compiled into the executable.
The compile products of two compilers should be compatible if they both follow the ABI for the platform. That's the purpose of defining specific register and calling conventions.
As far as Solaris is concerned, you assumption is incorrect. Being the interface between the kernel and the userland, the standard C library is provided with the operating system. That means whatever C compiler you use (Forte/studio or gcc), the same libc is always used. In any case, the rare ports of the Gnu standard C library (glibc) to Solaris are quite limited and probably lacking too much features to be usable. http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~dtbartle/opensolaris/
None of the other answers (yet) mentions an important feature that promotes interworking between compilers and libraries - the ABI or Application Binary Interface. On Unix-like machines, there is a well documented ABI, and the C compilers on the system all follow the ABI. This allows a great deal of mix'n'match. Normally, you use the system-provided C library, but you can use a replacement version provided with a compiler, or created separately. And normally, you can use a library compiled by one compiler with programs compiled by other compilers.
Sometimes, one compiler uses a runtime support library for some operations - perhaps 64-bit arithmetic routines on a 32-bit machine. If you use a library built with this compiler as part of a program built with another compiler, you may need to link this library. However, I've not seen that as a problem for a long time - with pure C.
Linking C++ is a different matter. There isn't the same degree of interworking between different C++ compilers - they disagree on details of class layout (vtables, etc) and on how exception handling is done, and so on. You have to work harder to create libraries built with one C++ compiler that can be used by others.
Only few things of the C library are mandatory in the sense that they are not needed for a freestanding environment. It only has to provide what is necessary for the headers
<float.h>, <iso646.h>, <limits.h>, <stdarg.h>, <stdbool.h>, <stddef.h>, and <stdint.h>
These usually don't implement a lot of functions that must be provided.
The other type of environments are called "hosted" environments. As the name indicated they suppose that there is some entity that "hosts" the running program, usually the OS. So usually the C library is provided by that "hosting environment", but as Ben said, on different systems there may even be alternative implementations.
Forte? That's really old.
The preferred compilers and developer tools for Solaris are all contained in Oracle Solaris Studio.
C/C++/Fortran with a debugger, performance analyzer, and IDE based on NetBeans, and lots of libraries.
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solarisstudio/index.html
It's (still) free, too.
I think there a is a bit of confusion about terms: a library is NOT DLL's or .so: in the real sense of programming languages, Libraries are compiled code the LINKER will merge with our binary (.o). So the linker (or the compiler via some directives...) can manage them, but OS can't, simply is NOT a concept related to OS.
We are used to think OSes are written in C and we can rebuild the OS using gcc/libraries or similar, but C is NOT linux / unix.
We can also have an OS written in Pascal (Mac OS was in this manner many years ago..) AND use libraries with our favorite C compiler, OR have an OS written in ASM (even if not all, as in first Windows version), but we must have C libraries to build an exe.
Just wondering, is the GNU C Library (glibc) usable on non-GNU and/or non-POSIX platforms such as Microsoft Windows?
Yes, its possible in theory, but not really worth it in practice. You would need to port the syscall interface, dynamic linker, and other parts to Windows or your platform of choice, and Glibc is not an ideal candidate for this.
If you really need a self contained C library, I would consider newlib or uClibc (or FreeBSD's/OpenBSD's libc) over glibc. Glibc is a complex beast, the alternatives are much smaller and easier to understand.
It is provided that glibc has been ported to the kernel in question. It may however be easier to use Gnulib instead as a wrapper around the native API.