Pointers on PIC32 device not matching expected values in the debugger - c

Quick question here regarding the behavior of pointers (I'm working on a project on a PIC32MX270F256D).
I have the following code currently implemented:
void main(void)
{
int size = 15;
int check;
int *ptr;
ptr = &size;
check = *ptr;
while(1); //just so it hangs at the end
}
Now I am stepping through the program with variable watches on. After the declaration of size, I can see in the watch window that size has a value 15, and is at address 0xA000FFC8 (so far so good). After the line ptr = &size;, the watch window shows that ptr has value 0xA000FFC8 (as expected). Now after the final line (check = *ptr;), the watch window says check has the value 0xA000FFC8.
This seems to me like very simple functionality. At the end, while hanging in the while loop, check should have the value 15, no? If yes, is my code incorrect, or is there apparently something wrong with the Microchip IDE? If not, what am I missing to make this work like it should?
Thanks.
-Sean
Note: I'm using MPLAB X and the Microchip's XC32 compiler.

This is probably an optimization issue. Your compiler determined that your code doesn't actually do anything, so it didn't bother generating the code. Specifically, your code doesn't actually use the value you store in check.
You can declare your pointer as volatile to force the compiler not to optimize it away. I.e., int *ptr; becomes volatile int *ptr;.
You could also use the value of check in a meaningful way, like by printing it out.
printf("My pointer %p points to %u.\n", ptr, check);
Or you can look in your compiler documentation and figure out how to turn off optimizations. When debugging, it is often helpful to compile without optimizations so that the compiled code closely matches your source code.
Note: You will at some point want to access hardware or chip registers that have been mapped to memory addresses. When you do this, make sure these pointers to mapped memory are volatile or you will have the same problem!

Related

Is there a way to (actually) protect an object from being modified?

The const type qualifier causes the compiler to issue an error message in case an attempt to modify an object declared as const,but that is not enough protection.For example the following program modifies both elements of the array declared as const:
#include <stdio.h>
int main(void)
{
const char buf[2] = { 'a','b' };
const char *const ptr = buf;
unsigned long addr = (unsigned long)ptr;
*(char *)addr = 'c';
addr = addr + 1;
*(char *)addr = 'd';
printf("%c\n", buf[0]);
printf("%c\n", buf[1]);
return 0;
}
So,it turns out to be that the compiler is not enough guard to protect the objects from being modified.How can we prevent this sort of thing?
I don't think more protection can nor should be provided.
The C programming language lets you do almost everything you want freely, especially accessing objects from pointers. However, freedom is never free, so C programmers must always be careful (and avoid casting if it isn't necessary).
A standard tool for finding memory overruns is watchpoints, or data breakpoints as they are called in MS Visual Studio.
If you need to protect your object just for debugging, use your debugger to set a watchpoint inside your object. The bug will be discovered at runtime (not compile time) - when your program tries to write to the specified address, the debugger will stop it.
You might be able to set your watchpoints in your code, but their number is limited (the maximum is 4 on x86 platform), so this cannot be a general-purpose feature of your program.
I think the philosophy behind protection is the comfort of one who is using your code as ready library in his own code.
Otherwise if it was possible to make the object completely non-modifiable in C language, there would be some crackers who could modify whatever they want :) :)

Changing constant global variable

There is a constant global variable defined in another module.
I would like to manipulate this variable during run time (as I can't change in the other module and remove the const keyword).
I know that constants are put in ROM ...
The code will be downloaded to a micro controller (leopard powerpc 5643) , so I think that constants will be in the Flash Memory (not the normal PC ROM)
I have tried something like this and the compiler produced an error during compilation:
const int global_Variable = 0;
const int* ptr = &global_Variable;
*ptr = 5;
So , do you know any other way to accomplish this ?
If you know that the constant really is put into ROM (or, more likely, flash) on your platform, then of course you won't be able to modify it, at least not directly.
If it's flash, you might, but you're going to have to dive a bit deeper since reprogramming flash memory is not done by just writing to it, you must erase the relevant portion and there are often block/sector size limitations to deal with. It won't be pretty.
Your actual code fails to compile since you can't write through a const pointer (that's the point of the const, after all). You can cast away that and force the compiler to generate the write, but of course it won't work if the target address points to non-writable memory:
const int global_Variable = 0;
int *ptr = (int *) &global_Variable; /* Cast away the const. */
*ptr = 5; /* Do the write! */
Again, this won't work if global_Variable is in non-writable memory. You will get undefined results.
Lastly, which is so obvious that I didn't even think to write it: what you're doing sounds lika a very bad idea. Obviously the software you're working on was designed with the assumption that global_Variable be constant. You're trying to overthrow that particular part of the design, which very likely will break lots of things if you succeed. In other words: consider not doing this.
If you manage to place global_variable in a memory region that is writeable, here is a way to change its value. Notice that this won't work if global_variable is not physically writeable, e.g. because it sits in the ROM area.
int *ptr = (int*)&global_variable; /* the compiler will warn you about this */
*ptr = 5;
Notice that you might run into other problems down the road as the compiler might assume that the content of a variable declared as const does not change during the runtime of the program. You violate this assertion by altering the variable's value, so expect strange results.

Volatile keyword in C [duplicate]

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Why is volatile needed in C?
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I am writing program for ARM with Linux environment. its not a low level program, say app level
Can you clarify me what is the difference between,
int iData;
vs
volatile int iData;
Does it have hardware specific impact ?
Basically, volatile tells the compiler "the value here might be changed by something external to this program".
It's useful when you're (for instance) dealing with hardware registers, that often change "on their own", or when passing data to/from interrupts.
The point is that it tells the compiler that each access of the variable in the C code must generate a "real" access to the relevant address, it can't be buffered or held in a register since then you wouldn't "see" changes done by external parties.
For regular application-level code, volatile should never be needed unless (of course) you're interacting with something a lot lower-level.
The volatile keyword specifies that variable can be modified at any moment not by a program.
If we are talking about embedded, then it can be e.g. hardware state register. The value that it contains may be modified by the hardware at any unpredictable moment.
That is why, from the compiler point of view that means that compiler is forbidden to apply optimizations on this variable, as any kind of assumption is wrong and can cause unpredictable result on the program execution.
By making a variable volatile, every time you access the variable, you force the CPU to fetch it from memory rather than from a cache. This is helpful in multithreaded programs where many threads could reuse the value of a variable in a cache. To prevent such reuse ( in multithreaded program) volatile keyword is used. This ensures that any read or write to an volatile variable is stable (not cached)
Generally speaking, the volatile keyword is intended to prevent the compiler from applying any optimizations on the code that assume values of variables cannot change "on their own."
(from Wikipedia)
Now, what does this mean?
If you have a variable that could have its contents changed at any time, usually due to another thread acting on it while you are possibly referencing this variable in a main thread, then you may wish to mark it as volatile. This is because typically a variable's contents can be "depended on" with certainty for the scope and nature of the context in which the variable is used. But if code outside your scope or thread is also affecting the variable, your program needs to know to expect this and query the variable's true contents whenever necessary, more than the normal.
This is a simplification of what is going on, of course, but I doubt you will need to use volatile in most programming tasks.
In the following example, global_data is not explicitly modified. so when the optimization is done, compiler thinks that, it is not going to modified anyway. so it assigns global_data with 0. And uses 0, whereever global_data is used.
But actually global_data updated through some other process/method(say through ptrace ). by using volatile you can force it to read always from memory. so you can get updated result.
#include <stdio.h>
volatile int global_data = 0;
int main()
{
FILE *fp = NULL;
int data = 0;
printf("\n Address of global_data:%x \n", &global_data);
while(1)
{
if(global_data == 0)
{
continue;
}
else if(global_data == 2)
{
;
break;
}
}
return 0;
}
volatile keyword can be used,
when the object is a memory mapped io port.
An 8 bit memory mapped io port at physical address 0x15 can be declared as
char const ptr = (char *) 0x15;
Suppose that we want to change the value at that port at periodic intervals.
*ptr = 0 ;
while(*ptr){
*ptr = 4;//Setting a value
*ptr = 0; // Clearing after setting
}
It may get optimized as
*ptr = 0 ;
while(0){
}
Volatile supress the compiler optimization and compiler assumes that tha value can
be changed at any time even if no explicit code modify it.
Volatile char *const ptr = (volatile char * )0x15;
Used when the object is a modified by ISR.
Sometimes ISR may change tha values used in the mainline codes
static int num;
void interrupt(void){
++num;
}
int main(){
int val;
val = num;
while(val != num)
val = num;
return val;
}
Here the compiler do some optimizations to the while statement.ie the compiler
produce the code it such a way that the value of num will always read form the cpu
registers instead of reading from the memory.The while statement will always be
false.But in actual scenario the valu of num may get changed in the ISR and it will
reflect in the memory.So if the variable is declared as volatile the compiler will know
that the value should always read from the memory
volatile means that variables value could be change any time by any external source. in GCC if we dont use volatile than it optimize the code which is sometimes gives unwanted behavior.
For example if we try to get real time from an external real time clock and if we don't use volatile there then what compiler do is it will always display the value which is stored in cpu register so it will not work the way we want. if we use volatile keyword there then every time it will read from the real time clock so it will serve our purpose....
But as u said you are not dealing with any low level hardware programming then i don't think you need to use volatile anywhere
thanks

Can an address be assigned to a variable in C?

Is it possible to assign a variable the address you want, in the memory?
I tried to do so but I am getting an error as "Lvalue required as left operand of assignment".
int main() {
int i = 10;
&i = 7200;
printf("i=%d address=%u", i, &i);
}
What is wrong with my approach?
Is there any way in C in which we can assign an address we want, to a variable?
Not directly.
You can do this though : int* i = 7200;
.. and then use i (ie. *i = 10) but you will most likely get a crash. This is only meaningful when doing low level development - device drivers, etc... with known memory addreses.
Assuming you are on an x86-type processer on a modern operating system, it is not possible to write to aribtray memory locations; the CPU works in concert with the OS to protect memory so that one process cannot accidentally (or intentionally) overwrite another processes' memory. Allowing this would be a security risk (see: buffer overflow). If you try to anyway, you get the 'Segmentation fault' error as the OS/CPU prevents you from doing this.
For technical details on this, you want to start with 1, 2, and 3.
Instead, you ask the OS to give you a memory location you can write to, using malloc. In this case, the OS kernel (which is generally the only process that is allowed to write to arbitrary memory locations) finds a free area of memory and allocates it to your process. The allocation process also marks that area of memory as belonging to your process, so that you can read it and write it.
However, a different OS/processor architecture/configuration could allow you to write to an arbitrary location. In that case, this code would work:
#include <stdio.h>
void main() {
int *ptr;
ptr = (int*)7000;
*ptr = 10;
printf("Value: %i", *ptr);
}
C language provides you with no means for "attaching" a name to a specific memory address. I.e. you cannot tell the language that a specific variable name is supposed to refer to a lvalue located at a specific address. So, the answer to your question, as stated, is "no". End of story.
Moreover, formally speaking, there's no alternative portable way to work with specific numerical addresses in C. The language itself defines no features that would help you do that.
However, a specific implementation might provide you with means to access specific addresses. In a typical implementation, converting an integral value Ato a pointer type creates a pointer that points to address A. By dereferencing such pointer you can access that memory location.
Not portably. But some compilers (usually for the embedded world) have extensions to do it.
For example on IAR compiler (here for MSP430), you can do this:
static const char version[] # 0x1000 = "v1.0";
This will put object version at memory address 0x1000.
You can do in the windows system with mingw64 setup in visual studio code tool, here is my code
#include<stdio.h>
int main()
{
int *c;
c = (int *)0x000000000061fe14; // Allocating the address 8-bit with respect to your CPU arch.
*c = NULL; // Initializing the null pointer for allocated address
*c = 0x10; // Assign a hex value (you can assign integer also without '0x')
printf("%p\n",c); // Prints the address of the c pointer variable
printf("%x\n",*c); // Prints the assigned value 0x10 -hex
}
It is tested with mentioned environment. Hope this helps Happy coding !!!
No.
Even if you could, 7200 is not a pointer (memory address), it's an int, so that wouldn't work anyway.
There's probably no way to determine which address a variable will have. But as a last hope for you, there is something called "pointer", so you can modify a value on address 7200 (although this address will probably be inaccessible):
int *i = (int *)7200;
*i = 10;
Use ldscript/linker command file. This will however, assign at link time, not run time.
Linker command file syntax depends largely on specific compiler. So you will need to google for linker command file, for your compiler.
Approximate pseudo syntax would be somewhat like this:
In linker command file:
.section start=0x1000 lenth=0x100 myVariables
In C file:
#pragma section myVariables
int myVar=10;
It's not possible, maybe possible with compiler extensions. You could however access memory at an address you want (if the address is accessible to your process):
int addr = 7200;
*((int*)addr) = newVal;
I think '&' in &a evaluates the address of i at the compile time which i think is a virtual address .So it is not a Lvalue according to your compiler. Use pointer instead

Printf the current address in C program

Imagine I have the following simple C program:
int main() {
int a=5, b= 6, c;
c = a +b;
return 0;
}
Now, I would like to know the address of the expression c=a+b, that is the program address
where this addition is carried out. Is there any possibility that I could use printf?
Something along the line:
int main() {
int a=5, b= 6, c;
printf("Address of printf instruction in memory: %x", current_address_pointer_or_something)
c = a +b;
return 0;
}
I know how I could find the address out by using gdb and then info line file.c:line. However, I should know if I could also do that directly with the printf.
In gcc, you can take the address of a label using the && operator. So you could do this:
int main()
{
int a=5, b= 6, c;
sum:
c = a+b;
printf("Address of sum label in memory: %p", &&sum);
return 0;
}
The result of &&sum is the target of the jump instruction that would be emitted if you did a goto sum. So, while it's true that there's no one-to-one address-to-line mapping in C/C++, you can still say "get me a pointer to this code."
Visual C++ has the _ReturnAddress intrinsic, which can be used to get some info here.
For instance:
__declspec(noinline) void PrintCurrentAddress()
{
printf("%p", __ReturnAddress);
}
Which will give you an address close to the expression you're looking at. In the event of some optimizations, like tail folding, this will not be reliable.
Tested in Visual Studio 2008:
int addr;
__asm
{
call _here
_here: pop eax
; eax now holds the PC.
mov [addr], eax
}
printf("%x\n", addr);
Credit to this question.
Here's a sketch of an alternative approach:
Assume that you haven't stripped debug symbols, and in particular you have the line number to address table that a source-level symbolic debugger needs in order to implement things like single step by source line, set a break point at a source line, and so forth.
Most tool chains use reasonably well documented debug data formats, and there are often helper libraries that implement most of the details.
Given that and some help from the preprocessor macro __LINE__ which evaluates to the current line number, it should be possible to write a function which looks up the address of any source line.
Advantages are that no assembly is required, portability can be achieved by calling on platform-specific debug information libraries, and it isn't necessary to directly manipulate the stack or use tricks that break the CPU pipeline.
A big disadvantage is that it will be slower than any approach based on directly reading the program counter.
For x86:
int test()
{
__asm {
mov eax, [esp]
}
}
__declspec(noinline) int main() // or whatever noinline feature your compiler has
{
int a = 5;
int aftertest;
aftertest = test()+3; // aftertest = disasms to 89 45 F8 mov dword ptr [a],eax.
printf("%i", a+9);
printf("%x", test());
return 0;
}
I don't know the details, but there should be a way to make a call to a function that can then crawl the return stack for the address of the caller, and then copy and print that out.
Using gcc on i386 or x86-64:
#include <stdio.h>
#define ADDRESS_HERE() ({ void *p; __asm__("1: mov 1b, %0" : "=r" (p)); p; })
int main(void) {
printf("%p\n", ADDRESS_HERE());
return 0;
}
Note that due to the presence of compiler optimizations, the apparent position of the expression might not correspond to its position in the original source.
The advantage of using this method over the &&foo label method is it doesn't change the control-flow graph of the function. It also doesn't break the return predictor unit like the approaches using call :)
On the other hand, it's very much architecture-dependent... and because it doesn't perturb the CFG there's no guarantee that jumping to the address in question would make any sense at all.
If the compiler is any good this addition happens in registers and is never stored in memory, at least not in the way you are thinking. Actually a good compiler will see that your program does nothing, manipulating values within a function but never sending those values anywhere outside the function can result in no code.
If you were to:
c = a+b;
printf("%u\n",c);
Then a good compiler will also never store that value C in memory it will stay in registers, although it depends on the processor as well. If for example compilers for that processor use the stack to pass variables to functions then the value for c will be computed using registers (a good compiler will see that C is always 11 and just assign it) and the value will be put on the stack while being sent to the printf function. Naturally the printf function may well need temporary storage in memory due to its complexity (cant fit everything it needs to do in registers).
Where I am heading is that there is no answer to your question. It is heavily dependent on the processor, compiler, etc. There is no generic answer. I have to wonder what the root of the question is, if you were hoping to probe with a debugger, then this is not the question to ask.
Bottom line, disassemble your program and look at it, for that compile on that day with those settings, you will be able to see where the compiler has placed intermediate values. Even if the compiler assigns a memory location for the variable that doesnt mean the program will ever store the variable in that location. It depends on optimizations.

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