I need to create 200+ controls in a winform application that has only one form. They will all be grouped in panels.
I have the option to create the controls dynamically in code or statically by dragging them onton the panels.
I'm trying to find out which way consumes less CPU power and less memory: statically or dynamically.
Or are both ways will consume the same?
thank you in advance
In terms of memory and speed, it won't make a noticeable difference whether they are dynamically created or done by a GUI builder.
I'd also be looking at a way to avoid 200 controls on one form (e.g. breaking it into some tabs or similar). The more you can break the problem down, the more attractive GUI builders/drag and drop becomes...
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At a high level my application is applying about 5 different DataTemplates to a set of ListBoxItems based on their type. These items are laid out on a canvas at specific x, y points. I implemented virtualization on my ListBox and it did not seem to improve the time it takes to complete the rendering thread's processes. It still takes about 8-12 seconds for the UI to be completely loaded and usable by the user. I thought virtualization would help fix this problem but after looking around it looks like it only helps process scrolling large amounts of data. Am I correct in this assumption and does anyone else have any other tips for improving the rendering thread. This is the only problem I am having and then my project is complete. Thanks StackOverflow!
Virtualisation means that only the items you have visible are created, then dynamically destroyed/new items created as you scroll. The alternative is all UI controls are created for all items at once.
It sounds like you have bigger problems with the rest of the app. Do you perform all loading operations on a background thread? Is the UI control tree very complex indeed? Are you displaying 100s or 1,000s of items?
We also had a lot of trouble with performance in WPF. Best way is of course to profile your application. We use ANTS Performance profiler for that, but any .NET profiler will do. We got a huge performance hit, because of the lookup of our XAML Resources. Thats the advice i can give you:
Try to minimize all resources in XAML. But not only that, also try to minimize the amount of XAML files you have. One thing you can try is to defere the loading of complex parts of your DataTemplate. Similiar to what happens when you load a JPEG in a browser, first you will see a pixelated image which will be finer after it finished loading the JPEG. To accomplish that, use a simpler DataTemplate at first and then if this is visible only load the complex template on demand or after a while.
But without more information of your specific problem, we can only guess. This is an old question of mine about a similiar subject, maybe this will help aswell.
Yes, ListBox virtualization is for scrolling. When you have a large number of items in a ListBox, enabling virtualization will make only the visible items (+ a few extra items for scrolling) render, and scrolling the ListBox replaces the data in the rendered items instead of rendering new items.
If you were to post some code, perhaps we could assist you with some performance tweaks
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I have heard from a coworker that I - as a designer using Microsoft Expression Blend - should avoid using excessive nesting of panel elements, because they are computationally expensive.
For example, I tend to create the mainwindow with header and custom statusbar with grid, and then take the top panel and put a grid inside it, and if I have a message inside a rectangle on the already gridded top panel I create yet another grid, etc.
As a very layout-oriented disigner (who wants to use every screen most efficiently whatever the screen dimensions are) I know this is the best way to do it considering absolute control and flexibility, which prevent the window to resize in "unpredictable" ways ;oP
BUT...
...this friend of mine said that, if you have, say, five grids nested inside one another, if you pass the mouse over them, you generate five mouse events, which is costly.
Also, if you have too many calculations due to the too many containers asking for children sizes before the actual rendering, it can also be costly.
I had some previous experience with PyGtk, and I must say I used A LOT o layout panels for all my scripts, and even the resizing of windows never seemed to me to be specially costly, except when I had some complex canvas drawing needed to be recalculated.
Does anyone have any experience or know anything about it?
Thanks a lot for reading
There's no straight-forward answer to this, but obviously the more elements you have participating in layout, the longer the measure and arrange phases are going to take for the window. Depending on which features of which Panel types you use it could be more or less costly, but for sure the more you use the more overhead there will be during the layout calculations. You can learn more about how the layout system works by reading that entire MSDN article.
In the end this is something that, unless you've gone crazy, will not often be an issue. To find out if it is causing problems for your app I suggest using the WPF Performance Suite to do some performance testing.
Wouldn't worry about it that much, i for one did not have problems with it so far. Apply some common sense, what panels are needed in which case? Do you really need yet another panel to achieve your goal or not?
The MSDN article on this issue might be of interest since it explains a few things which are not straightforward: Optimizing Performance: Layout and Design
I am new to WPF environment and I am experiencing some problems like if there are alots of things how do we manage them.for example I have three borders each of same size same location and they contains controls like textboxes etc etc we construct them sequentially but when it comes to edit we get in trouble modifying the border that is at bottom.
So in short how do we manage many controls on single page so that it remains easy to edit
Not sure I completely understand your concerns, but here are several point that make editing WPF UI pretty easy:
Correct usage of layout panels. If you will use approach with absolute positions for each control then it might become a nightmare to move or resize some of your controls. Correct layout (and panels such as DockPanel/StackPanel/etc) might help you a lot.
Incapsulating repeatable parts. WPF has a lot of feature to avoid repeating UI code. I'm talking mostly about Styles and Control templates at the moment. If you have your borders repeating through the entire window, maybe you should think on extracting this border as a ControlTemplate for ContentControl for example?
but I've found that encapsulating controls such as borders, textboxes etc in User Controls helps to keep things well managed (not to mention helps reduce code), similarly using a Resource Dictionary to store styles/animations is useful for very big projects (remember though that the local resources will take precedence when applied so remove them if they not in use)
furthermore, using Layout Panels such as Stacks,Grids and Dockpanels allows you to collapse User Controls when not needed or otherwise (also I've found that for some reason, Grids allow controls to overlap (when items are not correctly ordered in Grid Rows and Columns) which can lead to some elements not being seen in design.
Plan your layout properly and think through which Panels would be best for them, having to go back much later and change can be annoying (though admittedly it happens).
Also remember to use partial classes to properly structure your stuff, having to read through 1000+ lines of code to find something can be a nightmare.
I currently have a 952 large collection of items. I am displaying about 500+ of them as polygons, and this is causing some noticeable, but manageable lag in my application. What is the most lightweight control / element that I can use to display these items at one time?
DrawingVisuals provide a more lightweight approach for rendering objects than Paths:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms742254.aspx
The downside of this approach is that they do not provide events such as mouse enter / leave, you must perform hit testing manually. However, this might be OK for your needs.
There is an even more lightweight approach where you add items to the visual layer directly, you can see an example on this page:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms748373.aspx
My advice would be to try DrawingVisuals first.
My app has many controls on its surface, and more are added dynamically at runtime.
Although i am using tabs to limit the number of controls shown, and double-buffering too, it still flickers and stutters when it has to redraw (resize, maximize, etc).
What are your tips and tricks to improve WinForms app performance?
I know of two things you can do but they don't always apply to all situations.
You're going to get better performance if you're using absolute positioning for each control (myNewlyCreatedButton.Location.X/Y) as opposed to using a flow layout panel or a table layout panel. WinForms has to do a lot less math trying to figure out where controls should be placed.
If there is a single operation in which you're adding/removing/modifying a lot of controls, call "SuspendLayout()" on the container of the affected controls (whether it is a panel or the whole form), and when you're done with your work call "ResumeLayout()" on the same panel. If you don't, the form will have to do a layout pass each and every time you add/remove/modify a control, which cost a lot more time. see: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.windows.forms.control.suspendlayout(VS.80).aspx
Although, I'm not sure how these approaches could apply when resizing a window.
Although more general than some of the other tips, here is mine:
When using a large number of "items", try to avoid creating a control for each one of them, rather reuse the controls. For example if you have 10 000 items, each corresponding to a button, it is very easy to (programatically) create a 10 000 buttons and wire up their event handlers, such that when you enter in the event handler, you know exactly which element you must work on. However it is much more efficient if you create, lets say, 500 buttons (because you know that only 500 buttons will be visible on the screen at any one time) and introduce a "mapping layer" between the buttons and the items, which dynamically reassigns the buttons to different items every time the user does something which would result in changing the set of buttons which should be visible (like moving a scrollbar for example).
Although, I'm not sure how these approaches could apply when resizing a window.
Handle the ResizeBegin and ResizeEnd events to call SuspendLayout() and ResumeLayout(). These events are only on the System.Windows.Form class (although I wish they were also on Control).
Are you making good use of SuspendLayout() and ResumeLayout()?
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.windows.forms.control.suspendlayout(VS.80).aspx