I have a mongo collection with documents that have a schema structured like the following:
{ _id : bla,
fname : foo,
lname : bar,
subdocs [ { subdocname : doc1
field1 : one
field2 : two
potentially_huge_array : [...]
}, ...
]
}
I'm using the ruby mongo driver that currently does not support elemMatch. I use an aggregation when extracting from subdocs via a project, unwind and match pipeline.
What I would now like to do is to page results from the potentially_huge_array array contained in the subdocument. I have not been able to figure out how to grab just a subset of the array without dragging the entire subdoc, huge array and all, out of the db into my app.
Is there some way to do this?
Would a different schema be a better way to handle this?
Depending on how huge is huge, you definitely don't want it embedded into another document.
The main reason is that unless you always want the array returned with the document, you probably don't want to store it as part of the document. How you can store it in another collection would depend on exactly how you want to access it.
Reviewing the types of queries you most often perform on your data will usually suggest the best schema - one that will allow you to be efficient about number of queries, the amount of data returned and ease of indexing the data.
If you field really huge and changes often, just placed it in separate collection.
Related
I have a set of test results in my mongodb database. Each document in the database contains version information, test data, date, test run information etc...
The version is broken up in the document and stored as individual values. For example: { VER_MAJOR : "0", VER_MINOR : "2", VER_REVISION : "3", VER_PATCH : "20}
My application wants the ability to specify a specific version and grab the document as well as the previous N documents based on the version.
For example:
If version = 0.2.3.20 and n = 5 then the result would return documents with version 0.2.3.20, 0.2.3.19, 0.2.3.18, 0.2.3.17, 0.2.3.16, 0.2.3.15
The solutions that come to my mind is:
Create a new database that contains documents with version information and is sorted. Which can be used to obtain the previous N version's which can be used to obtain the corresponding N documents in the test results database.
Perform the sorting in the test results database itself like in number 1. Though if the test results database is large, this will take a very long time. Also consider inserting in order every time.
Creating another database like in option 1 doesn't seem like the right way. But sorting the test results database seems like there will be lots of overhead, am I mistaken that I should be worried about option 2 producing lots of overhead? I have the impression I'd have to query the entire database then sort it on application side. Querying the entire database seems like overkill...
db.collection_name.find().sort([Paramaters for sorting])
You are quite correct that querying and sorting the entire data set would be very excessive. I probably went overboard on this, but I tried to break everything down in detail below.
Terminology
First thing first, a couple terminology nitpicks. I think you're using the term Database when you mean to use the word Collection. Differentiating between these two concepts will help with navigating documentation and allow for a better understanding of MongoDB.
Collections and Sorting
Second, it is important to understand that documents in a Collection have no inherent ordering. The order in which documents are returned to your app is only applied when retrieving documents from the Collection, such as when specifying .sort() on a query. This means we won't need to copy all of the documents to some other collection; we just need to query the data so that only the desired data is returned in the order we want.
Query
Now to the fun part. The query will look like the following:
db.test_results.find({
"VER_MAJOR" : "0",
"VER_MINOR" : "2",
"VER_REVISION" : "3",
"VER_PATCH" : { "$lte" : 20 }
}).sort({
"VER_PATCH" : -1
}).limit(N)
Our query has a direct match on the three leading version fields to limit results to only those values, i.e. the specific version "0.2.3". A range $lte filter is applied on VER_PATCH since we will want more than a single patch revision.
We then sort results by VER_PATCH to return results descending by the patch version. Finally, the limit operator is used to restrict the number of documents being returned.
Index
We're not done yet! Remember how you said that querying the entire collection and sorting it on the app side felt like overkill? Well, the database would doing exactly that if an index did not exist for this query.
You should follow the equality-sort-match rule when determining the order of fields in an index. In this case, this would give us the index:
{ "VER_MAJOR" : 1, "VER_MINOR" : 1, "VER_REVISION" : 1, "VER_PATCH" : 1 }
Creating this index will allow the query to complete by scanning only the results it would return, while avoiding an in-memory sort. More information can be found here.
I am a beginner at Mongo and I made a data base with the following topology.
Some fields of metadata and one field that contain the experiment results.
experiment results- vector of integers with ~150,000 values
status = db.DataTest.insert_one(
{
"person_num" : num,
"life_cycle" : cycle,
"other_metadata" : meta_data,
"results_of_experiment": big_array
}
)
I inserted something like 7500 of those documents
Its occupied 8GB of memory and work really slowly for find operations.
I don't need those experiment results to search by them only the option to retrieve them from the DB as chunk of data.
Is there another solution to store on the DB the experiment results?
Is using "gridfs" is relevant to this case and not too complicated?
Based on your comments, the most common query is
db.DataTest.find( { "life_cycle": { $gt: 800 } }).limit(5)
Without an index on the life_cycle field, MongoDB is forced to do a collection scan. That is, fetch & evaluate all documents in your collection one by one. In a large collection, this will take a long time.
MongoDB does not create indexes automatically. You would have to observe your most common queries, and create indexes to support those queries. As far as I know, there is no automatic index creation in any database software; SQL, NoSQL, or otherwise.
Database indexing is a deep subject and cannot be explained in a short answer.
Having said that, if you create an index on the life_cycle field, it should improve your query times but only for the query you posted above. Other query types would likely require different indexes. You can do so in the mongo shell:
db.DataTest.createIndex({life_cycle: 1})
I encourage you to read these pages to understand more about indexing in MongoDB:
https://docs.mongodb.com/manual/indexes/
https://docs.mongodb.com/manual/applications/indexes/
https://docs.mongodb.com/manual/tutorial/create-indexes-to-support-queries/
After working with neo4j and now coming to the point of considering to make my own entity manager (object manager) to work with the fetched data in the application, i wonder about neo4j's output format.
When i run a query it's always returned as tabular data. Why is this??
Sure tables keep a big place in data and processing, but it seems so strange that a graph database can only output in this format.
Now when i want to create an object graph in my application i would have to hydrate all the objects and this is not really good for performance and doesn't leverage true graph performace.
Consider MATCH (A)-->(B) RETURN A, B when there is one A and three B's, it would return:
A B
1 1
1 2
1 3
That's the same A passed down 3 times over the database connection, while i only need it once and i know this before the data is fetched.
Something like this seems great http://nigelsmall.com/geoff
a load2neo is nice, a load-from-neo would also be nice! either in the geoff format or any other formats out there https://gephi.org/users/supported-graph-formats/
Each language could then implement it's own functions to create the objects directly.
To clarify:
Relations between nodes are lost in tabular data
Redundant (non-optimal) format for graphs
Edges (relations) and vertices (nodes) are usually not in the same table. (makes queries more complex?)
Another consideration (which might deserve it's own post), what's a good way to model relations in an object graph? As objects? or as data/method inside the node objects?
#Kikohs
Q: What do you mean by "Each language could then implement it's own functions to create the objects directly."?
A: With an (partial) graph provided by the database (as result of a query) a language as PHP could provide a factory method (in C preferably) to construct the object graph (this is usually an expensive operation). But only if the object graph is well defined in a standard format (because this function should be simple and universal).
Q: Do you want to export the full graph or just the result of a query?
A: The result of a query. However a query like MATCH (n) OPTIONAL MATCH (n)-[r]-() RETURN n, r should return the full graph.
Q: you want to dump to the disk the subgraph created from the result of a query ?
A: No, existing interfaces like REST are prefered to get the query result.
Q: do you want to create the subgraph which comes from a query in memory and then request it in another language ?
A: no i want the result of the query in another format then tabular (examples mentioned)
Q: You make a query which only returns the name of a node, in this case, would you like to get the full node associated or just the name ? Same for the edges.
A: Nodes don't have names. They have properties, labels and relations. I would like enough information to retrieve A) The node ID, it's labels, it's properties and B) the relation to other nodes which are in the same result.
Note that the first part of the question is not a concrete "how-to" question, rather "why is this not possible?" (or if it is, i like to be proven wrong on this one). The second is a real "how-to" question, namely "how to model relations". The two questions have in common that they both try to find the answer to "how to get graph data efficiently in PHP."
#Michael Hunger
You have a point when you say that not all result data can be expressed as an object graph. It reasonable to say that an alternative output format to a table would only be complementary to the table format and not replacing it.
I understand from your answer that the natural (rawish) output format from the database is the result format with duplicates in it ("streams the data out as it comes"). I that case i understand that it's now left to an alternative program (of the dev stack) to do the mapping. So my conclusion on neo4j implementing something like this:
Pro's - not having to do this in every implementation language (of the application)
Con's - 1) no application specific mapping is possible, 2) no performance gain if implementation language is fast
"Even if you use geoff, graphml or the gephi format you have to keep all the data in memory to deduplicate the results."
I don't understand this point entirely, are you saying that these formats are no able to hold deduplicated results (in certain cases)?? So infact that there is no possible textual format with which a graph can be described without duplication??
"There is also the questions on what you want to include in your output?"
I was under the assumption that the cypher language was powerful enough to specify this in the query. And so the output format would have whatever the database can provide as result.
"You could just return the paths that you get, which are unique paths through the graph in themselves".
Useful suggestion, i'll play around with this idea :)
"The dump command of the neo4j-shell uses the approach of pulling the cypher results into an in-memory structure, enriching it".
Does the enriching process fetch additional data from the database or is the data already contained in the initial result?
There is more to it.
First of all as you said tabular results from queries are really commonplace and needed to integrate with other systems and databases.
Secondly oftentimes you don't actually return raw graph data from your queries, but aggregated, projected, sliced, extracted information out of your graph. So the relationships to the original graph data are already lost in most of the results of queries I see being used.
The only time that people need / use the raw graph data is when to export subgraph-data from the database as a query result.
The problem of doing that as a de-duplicated graph is that the db has to fetch all the result data data in memory first to deduplicate, extract the needed relationships etc.
Normally it just streams the data out as it comes and uses little memory with that.
Even if you use geoff, graphml or the gephi format you have to keep all the data in memory to deduplicate the results (which are returned as paths with potential duplicate nodes and relationships).
There is also the questions on what you want to include in your output? Just the nodes and rels returned? Or additionally all the other rels between the nodes that you return? Or all the rels of the returned nodes (but then you also have to include the end-nodes of those relationships).
You could just return the paths that you get, which are unique paths through the graph in themselves:
MATCH p = (n)-[r]-(m)
WHERE ...
RETURN p
Another way to address this problem in Neo4j is to use sensible aggregations.
E.g. what you can do is to use collect to aggregate data per node (i.e. kind of subgraphs)
MATCH (n)-[r]-(m)
WHERE ...
RETURN n, collect([r,type(r),m])
or use the new literal map syntax (Neo4j 2.0)
MATCH (n)-[r]-(m)
WHERE ...
RETURN {node: n, neighbours: collect({ rel: r, type: type(r), node: m})}
The dump command of the neo4j-shell uses the approach of pulling the cypher results into an in-memory structure, enriching it and then outputting it as cypher create statement(s).
A similar approach can be used for other output formats too if you need it. But so far there hasn't been the need.
If you really need this functionality it makes sense to write a server-extension that uses cypher for query specification, but doesn't allow return statements. Instead you would always use RETURN *, aggregate the data into an in-memory structure (SubGraph in the org.neo4j.cypher packages). And then render it as a suitable format (e.g. JSON or one of those listed above).
These could be a starting points for that:
https://github.com/jexp/cypher-rs
https://github.com/jexp/cypher_websocket_endpoint
https://github.com/neo4j-contrib/rabbithole/blob/master/src/main/java/org/neo4j/community/console/SubGraph.java#L123
There are also other efforts, like GraphJSON from GraphAlchemist: https://github.com/GraphAlchemist/GraphJSON
And the d3 json format is also pretty useful. We use it in the neo4j console (console.neo4j.org) to return the graph visualization data that is then consumed by d3 directly.
I've been working with neo4j for a while now and I can tell you that if you are concerned about memory and performances you should drop cypher at all, and use indexes and the other graph-traversal methods instead (e.g. retrieve all the relationships of a certain type from or to a start node, and then iterate over the found nodes).
As the documentation says, Cypher is not intended for in-app usage, but more as a administration tool. Furthermore, in production-scale environments, it is VERY easy to crash the server by running the wrong query.
In second place, there is no mention in the docs of an API method to retrieve the output as a graph-like structure. You will have to process the output of the query and build it.
That said, in the example you give you say that there is only one A and that you know it before the data is fetched, so you don't need to do:
MATCH (A)-->(B) RETURN A, B
but just
MATCH (A)-->(B) RETURN B
(you don't need to receive A three times because you already know these are the nodes connected with A)
or better (if you need info about the relationships) something like
MATCH (A)-[r]->(B) RETURN r
The following document records a conversation between Milhouse and Bart. I would like to insert a new message with the right num (the next in the example would be 3) in a unique operation. Is that possible ?
{ user_a:"Bart",
user_b:"Milhouse",
conversation:{
last_msg:2,
messages:[
{ from:"Bart",
msg:"Hello"
num:1
},
{ from:"Milhouse",
msg:"Wanna go out ?"
num:2
}
]
}
}
In MongoDB, arrays keep their order, so by adding a num attribute, you're only creating more data for something that you could accomplish without the additional field. Just use the position in the array to accomplish the same thing. Grabbing the X message in an array will provide faster searches than searching for { num: X }.
To keep the order, I don't think there's an easy way to add the num category besides does a find() on conversation.last_msg before you insert the new subdocument and increment last_msg.
Depending on what you need to keep the ordering for, you might consider including a time stamp in your subdocument, which is commonly kept in conversation records anyway and may provide other useful information.
Also, I haven't used it, but there's a Mongoose plugin that may or may not be able to do what you want: https://npmjs.org/package/mongoose-auto-increment
You can't create an auto increment field but you can use functions to generate and administrate sequence :
http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/tutorial/create-an-auto-incrementing-field/
I would recommend using a timestamp rather than a numerical value. By using a timestamp, you can keep the ordering of the subdocument and make other use of it.
I have a table called devicesegments, each row of which contains a large array called devices. Owing to the size of the device array, I've been asked not to include it in my query for a page that lists all devicesegments, but only include their count. Is this possible?
What I was doing before :
A simple db.devicesegments.find()
What I'm doing now :
db.devicesegments.find({}, { devices : 0 })
What I want to achieve :
db.devicesegments.find({}, { devices : 0, devices.length : 1 })
Something like a COUNT(devices) AS device_count!
Ashkay, there's no way to do this with Mongo currently. As #rompetroll says, your application should keep a "count" field on each document, and carefully $inc it whenever you change the number of entries in the array. Then when you query for the document, exclude the array like:
db.collection.find({}, {devices:0})
If you're willing to run MongoDB 2.1, which is a development release, the aggregation framework provides a means to calculate the array size within a query:
http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/Aggregation+Framework
Since there is no way to currently do this, without including a new device_count in my table, the temporary fix that I applied was to fetch all the data from the database, along with the devices array, and for each row, add a field for devices.length and then remove the devices array before sending the data across.