I am wondering how the OS is reading/writing to the hard drive.
I would like as an exercise to implement a simple filesystem with no directories that can read and write files.
Where do I start?
Will C/C++ do the trick or do I have to go with a more low level approach?
Is it too much for one person to handle?
Take a look at FUSE: http://fuse.sourceforge.net/
This will allow you to write a filesystem without having to actually write a device driver. From there, I'd start with a single file. Basically create a file that's (for example) 100MB in length, then write your routines to read and write from that file.
Once you're happy with the results, then you can look into writing a device driver, and making your driver run against a physical disk.
The nice thing is you can use almost any language with FUSE, not just C/C++.
I found it quite easy to understand a simple filesystem while using the fat filesystem on the avr microcontroller.
http://elm-chan.org/fsw/ff/00index_e.html
Take look at the code you will figure out how fat works.
For learning the ideas of a file system it's not really necessary to use a disk i think. Just create an array of 512 byte byte-arrays. Just imagine this a your Harddisk an start to experiment a bit.
Also you may want to hava a look at some of the standard OS textbooks like http://codex.cs.yale.edu/avi/os-book/OS8/os8c/index.html
The answer to your first question, is that besides Fuse as someone else told you, you can also use Dokan that does the same for Windows, and from there is just a question of doing Reads and Writes to a physical partition (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa363858%28v=vs.85%29.aspx (read particularly the section on Physical Disks and Volumes)).
Of course that in Linux or Unix besides using something like Fuse you only have to issue, a read or write call to the wanted device in /dev/xxx (if you are root), and in these terms the Unices are more friendly or more insecure depending on your point of view.
From there try to implement a simple filesystem like Fat, or something more exoteric like an tar filesystem, or even some simple filesystem based on Unix concepts like UFS or Minux, or just something that only logs the calls that are made and their arguments to a log file (and this will help you understand, the calls that are made to the filesystem driver during the regular use of your computer).
Now your second question (that is much more simple to answer), yes C/C++ will do the trick, since they are the lingua franca of system development, also a lot of your example code will be in C/C++ so you will at least read C/C++ in your development.
Now for your third question, yes, this is doable by one person, for example the ext filesystem (widely known in Linux world by it's successors as ext2 or ext3) was made by a single developer Theodore Ts'o, so don't think that these things aren't doable by a single person.
Now the final notes, remember that a real filesystem interacts with a lot of other subsystems in a regular kernel, for example, if you have a laptop and hibernate it the filesystem has to flush all changes made to the open files, if you have a pagefile on the partition or even if the pagefile has it's own filesystem, that will affect your filesystem, particularly the block sizes, since they will tend to be equal or powers of the page block size, because it's easy to just place a block from the filesystem on memory that by coincidence is equal to the page size (because that's just one transfer).
And also, security, since you will want to control the users and what files they read/write and that usually means that before opening a file, you will have to know what user is logged on, and what permissions he has for that file. And obviously without filesystem, users can't run any program or interact with the machine. Modern filesystem layers, also interact with the network subsystem due to the fact that there are network and distributed filesystems.
So if you want to go and learn about doing kernel filesystems, those are some of the things you will have to worry about (besides knowing a VFS interface)
P.S.: If you want to make Unix permissions work on Windows, you can use something like what MS uses for NFS on the server versions of windows (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/262965)
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I have developed a basic kernel in assembly/c that runs a basic terminal. I have set it up to run off of an iso with grub.
I would like to continue this OS, but without a file system, I feel as if there's really nothing else I could do. After much time on the internet, I have come up with really nothing I can do to implement this.
People have said implement FAT or make a VFS, but nothing any further, nor tutorials, nor any references to anywhere.
Could someone explain how a file system works, where I can get started/where I can connect a pre-made system, and how to use it?
Also, I do not have access to standard libraries when compiling my os. I use gcc, nasm, ld, and grub-mkrescue(for the disk image). I use qemu for emulation.
EDIT to make less OT
Can someone describe, in detail how a file system works, so when I look at the sources of file systems that have been implemented, like FAT, I can understand how to apply it to my own operating system?
EDIT - Simpler
Even easier. How could I directly access the hard drive? My kernel runs completely in protected mode, so could I switch out and write directly to the hard drive. A file system could be implemented with a file looking like this:
name special char text special char
ie:
hello world.script 0x00 println "Hello, world!!" 0x00
Where you wouldn't need special segmentation, you would just look until you find the file name and the special character (something not in a string like '\0') and then read until you find the second non-string character.
Would there be a way to access the hard drive by switching in and out of protected mode or write a hard disk driver in order to implement this?
First, read wikipage on file systems to have some broad view.
The relevant resource about operating system development is OSdev (but perhaps your question is off-topic here). Kernelnewbies could also help (explaining how Linux is doing). OSdev have wikipages explaining FAT & Ext2 in details.
You could design an OS without any files (but some other persistence machinery). See this answer. You could have persistent processes (read also about application checkpointing, garbage collection, continuations, hibernation).
But you should read some good books about Operating Systems (e.g. by Tanenbaum, or the freely downloadable Operating Systems: Three Easy Pieces book). Be fluent with some existing free software OS, e.g. Linux (& POSIX), so read Advanced Linux Programming (at least to understand many concepts and get a good terminology).
IMHO, the FAT is such an ugly and inefficient file system that it is not worth looking into (except for legacy and compatibility reasons). Ext4 (see here) should be better & the wikipage on Ext2 has a nice picture.
You could adapt some library providing a file system (e.g. libext2) to your kernel.
You could perhaps adapt sqlite to work on a raw disk partition.
You might have a notion of file which is not like MSDOS (or Windows) or POSIX or <stdio.h> files. For example, it might be a sequence of fixed size records (e.g. of 1Kbyte), not a stream of bytes.
You could organize your OS as a microkernel and have file systems given by application code. Look into VSTa and HURD.
You need of course a disk driver, which fetches/writes blocks (of 4Kbytes) from your drive (disk I/O is always by blocks or disk sectors. Old small disks had 512 bytes blocks. New large disks have 4Kbytes ones, see advanced format). It should be interrupt driven and uses DMA. You need a task scheduler. AFAIU, you won't use the BIOS for this (perhaps the UEFI); you need to understand how common hardware (SATA & AHCI) works.
You should publish (today!) your toy OS as free software (e.g. under GPLv3+ on github) to get feedbacks and contributions.
You might copy (if licenses are compatible) existing code from other free software operating systems, and you certainly will study their source code to understand things.
So code some task scheduler, a page fault handler, a virtual memory, then add interrupt driven disk IO, and some file system code above that. Then you'll beginning to understand that an OS cannot be a small toy.... You might consider a microkernel or exokernel approach.
It would be simplest to use an existing open-source filesystem if the licence terms suit your needs. ELM FatFs is one such library, with no usage restrictions whatsoever. You only need to provide the device control interface layer using the provided stubs and examples.
I am writing an embedded system, where I am creating a USB mass storage device driver that uses an 8MB chunk of RAM as the FAT fileystem..
Although it made sense at the time to allow the OS to take my zero'd out RAM area and format a FAT partition itself, I ran into problems that I am diagnosing on Jan Axelson's (popular author of books on USB) PORTS forum. The problem is related to erasing the blocks in the drive, and may be circumvented by pre-formatting the memory area to a FAT filesystem before USB enumeration. Then, I could see if the drive will operate normally. Ideally, the preformatted partition would include a file on it to test the read operation.
It would be nice if I could somehow create and mount a mock 8MB FAT filesystem on my OS (OSX), write a file to it, and export it to an image file for inclusion in my project. Does someone know how to do this? I could handle the rest. I'm not too concerned whether that would be FAT12/16/32 at the moment, optional MBR inclusion would be nice..
If that option doesn't exist, I'm looking to use a pre-written utility to create a FAT img file that I could include into my project and upload directly to RAM. this utility would allow me to specify an 8MB filesystem with 512-byte sectors, for instance, and possibly FAT12 / FAT16 / FAT32.
Is anyone aware of such a utility? I wasn't able to find one.
If not, can someone recommend a first step to take in implementing this in C? I'm hoping a library exists. I'm pretty exhausted after implementing the mass storage driver from scratch, but I understand I might have to 'get crinkled' and manually create the FAT partition. It's not too hard. I imagine some packed structs and some options. I'll get there. I already have resources on FAT filesystem itself.
I ended up discovering that FatFS has facilities for formatting and partitioning the "drive" from within the embedded device, and it relieved of me of having to absolutely format it manually or use host-side tools.
I would like to cover in more detail the steps taken, but I am exhausted. I may edit in further details at a later time.
There are several, they're normally hidden in the OS source.
On BSD (ie OS-X) you should have a "mkdosfs" tool, if not the source will be available all over the place ... here's a random example
http://www.blancco.com/downloads/source/utils/mkdosfs/mkdosfs.c
Also there's the 'mtools' package, it's normally use for floppies, but I think it does disk images too.
Neither of these will create partition tables though; you'd need something else if that's required too.
I want to get information about the battery in C on linux. I don't want to read or parse any file! Is there any low-level interface to acpi/the kernel or any other module to get the information I want to have?
I already searched the web, but every question results in the answer "parse /proc/foo/bar". I really don't want to do this because I think, low-level interfaces won't change as fast as Files do.
best regards.
The /proc filesystem does not exist on a disk. Instead, the kernel creates it in memory. They are generated on-demand by the kernel when accessed. As such, your concerns are invalid -- the /proc files will change as quickly as the kernel becomes aware of changes.
Check this for more info about /proc file system.
In any case, I don't believe there's any alternative interface.
You might be looking for UPower: http://upower.freedesktop.org/
This is a common need for both desktop environments and mobile devices, so there have been many solutions over time. For example, one of the oldest ones was acpid, which is pretty much obsolete now.
While I'd recommend using a light-weight abstraction like UPower for code clarity reasons, the files in /proc and (to some extent) /sys are considered part of the Linux kernel ABI, which means that changing them is generally frowned upon.
I am wondering if it's possible to write an application that will access a foreign filesystem, but without needing support for that filesystem from the operating system. For example, I'd like to write an app in C that runs on Mac OS X that can browse / copy files from an ext2/ext3 formatted disk. Of course, you'd have to do all the transfers through the application (not through the system using cp or the Finder), but that would be OK for my purpose. Is this possible?
There are user space libraries that allow you to access file systems.
The Linux-NTFS library (libntfs) allows you to access NTFS file systems and there are user space programs like ntfsfix to do things to the file system.
E2fsprogs does the same for ext2, ext3 and ext4 filesystems.
As Basile mentioned, Mtools is another one that provides access to FAT partitions.
There was even a program that does exactly what you're looking for on Windows. It's called ext2explore and allows you to access ext2 partitions from Windows.
It is possible. For example the GNU mtools utility are doing that (assuming a way to access the raw device or partition) for MS-DOS FAT file systems.
However, file systems inside the kernel are usually very well tested and optimized.
Yes and No. For a regular user Application is usually not possible because access to block devices is restricted to root only. Every block device should give read/write to the needed block device for that effect. This would need at best a server/client approach where a service is started on the machine and configured to give the permissions on a per block device manner.
The somewhat easier alternative would be you to use the MacFUSE implementation.
Look here:
http://code.google.com/p/macfuse/
http://groups.google.com/group/macfuse?pli=1
The MacFuse project seems no longer mantained, but can give you a starting point for your project.
The dirty and quick approach is the following as root chmod 666 /dev/diskN
You can hijack syscalls and library calls from your application and then redirect reads/writes to anything like a KV store or a distributed DB layer (using the regular calls for the "virtual devices" that you do not support).
Then, the possibilities are boundless because you don't have to reach the physical/virtual devices when someone asks for them (resolving privilege issues).
I would like to write some basic disk scanner utility. Basically I would like to be able to read raw bytes of a certain file(s) as written to the disk in the way system's disk utilities (like error checking and defragmentation in windows) do it. I would like to do it in C.
What should be my first steps? Obviously fopen is not enough.
Any guidance would be much appreciated (I don't ask for a solution, just a bit of theory and push in a right direction as I don't even know where to start from...).
The following resources might be of use:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/100027
http://www.codeproject.com/KB/system/rawsectorio.aspx
You are venturing into the land of the driver here. Most of the file access APIs still hold you at a level higher than the disk itself. You could be talking to a file system on a CD, a RAMDisk, a SAN or HDD and you shouldn't care.
If you need to hit the disk directly then the Volume Managment API should help you out on Windows:
Volume Management API
fopen and fread will work. If you want to use an unbuffered interface, use open and read instead. Open and read are part of the POSIX standard, so they work in Windows too, although you may want to find manual pages for windows to be sure to catch any subtle differences in behaviour.