For our e-commerce service running on AppEngine we would like to offer the option for customers to run the stores on their custom domains (eg: www.mystore.com instead of www.enstore.com/mystore).
From a user perspective, I'd like them to enter the domain name they want to use in their preference screen and tell them how to configure their dns.
I know how you normally add domains to an AppEngine instance (through Google Apps) but I'm not sure you can automate that. And even if that's possible they would be all (hundreds) listed on our google apps page.
Anyone know if this is possible/if there is a good way to do it?
I don't think there is a way to add domains "programatically" to an AppEngine instance. Apparently, domains can only be added by using the Google Apps method that you described. This is confirmed in this SO post: How do i get foo.somedomain.com get handled by myapp.appspot.com/foo on appengine
The only options that pop to mind are the following:
HTTP Redirection
Many DNS providers support HTTP Redirection. In this case, your clients would be able to set up mystore.com and www.mystore.com to redirect to www.enstore.com/mystore. There are some obvious disadvantages with this method that might not be acceptable. First of all, with 301 and 302 redirects, the users will still be forwarded to the registered AppEngine URL: www.enstore.com/mystore, and it will show in their browser. In addition, choosing between a 301 and 302 redirect can make SEO tricky, since you'd have to get into how search engines behave with these redirects. For example most search engines will not use the original URL as a source for keywords when you use a 301 redirect.
In addition to 301 and 302 redirects, some DNS providers (like DNS Made Easy) also provide what they call a "masked hidden-iframe redirect". The page will render inside a hidden iframe, so the URL does not change in the user's browsers. However this makes SEO even more tricky, and it will not allow users to bookmark internal pages, or to reference them easily.
As you can see, this option is less than ideal, but it is one option to consider in some situations. Also note that at the moment, HTTP Redirection using 301 redirects is the suggested workaround for the Naked Domain Issue 777 on the AppEngine issue tracker.
Reverse Proxy
Another option could be to set up a small server somewhere else, like a small Amazon EC2 Instance, and set up a simple reverse proxy. You would be able to set this up very easily, just by using Apache and mod_proxy (or various other alternatives). This would allow you to ask your clients to set up a normal A Record pointing to this instance, while the Apache HTTP server would be acting as a proxy to your AppEngine.
The fundamental configuration directive to set up a reverse proxy in mod_proxy is the ProxyPass. You would typically set it up with one line like these for each VirtualHost (for each client domain):
ProxyPass / http://www.enmystore.com/mystore/
The configuration of the remote proxy could be easily handled by your back-end software.
This is a neater solution which gives you plenty of control - but there are obviously some costs for these benefits. First of all, there is the expense to host the reverse proxy. You would also be adding another point of failure, so you have to add this to your high-availability plan. In addition, if you are serving some pages through SSL it can become quite complicated.
Another option is to have each customer sign up for google apps, and then add your appengine app to their app. That way they can manage the url. They will need to use a cname for this, so urls will be limited to something like 'store.customer.com' You will have to support the multitenancy off of the host-header, but that isn't hard to do given that you already have a way to support multitenancy already. You might want to do the setup for the first couple of clients yourself so you can document the easiest way to set it up.
The rietveld code review app does this as you can add it to your google apps domain. See http://code.google.com/p/rietveld/wiki/CodeReviewHelp#Using_Code_Reviews_with_Google_Apps for more detail.
The preferred option is probably to offer your solution through the Google Solutions Marketplace: http://www.google.com/enterprise/enterprise_marketplace/about.html
We did something similar to Daniel Vassallo second proposal.
We created a python app on the Heroku cloud
(there is no limit for connecting custom domains).
This app is using python requests 1.2.0 lib to get the correct page from your app engine application according to the request domain.
all you need to tell your clients is to put your Heroku app url as their CNAME
For naked domains you can always use wwwizer
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Problem I want to solve
I want to be able to send different users to different versions of my Google App Engine application, on a custom domain, with SSL enabled. This needs to be done in a controlled way, i.e., even landing page should be different, and it has to work on multiple units for the user.
Solution I can't get to work
I am trying to setup a custom domain with sub-domains, and want to be able to access different versions of the application. For example, I have myapp.mydomain.com, and I want to run one version (alpha) on alpha.myapp.mydomain.com, and one version (beta) on beta.myapp.mydomain.com (where alpha is default).
I use the Google Developers Console to set up custom domains, using myapp.mydomain.com, and *.myapp.mydomain.com as custom domains.
This works perfectly as long as I don't try to add on SSL as well, i.e., beta.myapp.mydomain.com serves the version named beta. When I set up SSL I start by adding my application to Google Apps, (per https://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/ssl) and then set up my domain to point to my app. First I add myapp.mydomain.com, then alpha.myapp.mydomain.com, and last beta.myapp.mydomain.com.
When that is done beta.myapp.mydomain.com start to serve the default version instead. Except that it sometimes also serves the beta version (this happens one in every 20 tries or so, I assume it's a glitch for now).
My questions:
a) Should I set up my domains in both Google Apps and Google Developer Console? Or should I remove the setup from Google Developer Console? I tried both, seems to give the same results.
b) It seems like it is possible to get it done by using modules as indicated in
Google App Engine custom domains, subdomains and SSL and in Appengine modules dispatch.xml routing with custom domain. Is this the only way, or am I doing something wrong in my setup?
Suggestions I have received so far
One suggestion is to use traffic splitting and set a unique cookie depending on what version I want the user to end up with. I did not know about this, and it will solve some other issues I have been looking at. It does not solve my current problem though, as I need to have this set before log in. The answer is useful though.
I'll answer with what I did to make this work for me.
Instead of sending users to different versions of the app, I created a new module called alpha, and directed users using alpha.myapp.mydomain.com to that module using dispatch.xml.
<dispatch>
<url>*alpha.myapp.mydomain.com/*</url>
<module>alpha</module>
</dispatch>
I set up custom domains in the App Engine Console (https://console.developers.google.com) under Compute->App Engine->Custom Domains, for *.myapp.mydomain.com and alpha.myapp.mydomain.com. I also added the URL alpha.myapp.mydomain.com to the accepted URLs for my App Engine app on Google Apps (https://admin.google.com). This allowed me to run over SSL as well.
I intend to run the app under another domain (domain alias to my primary domain), so I tried that as well. To make this work I ONLY added the domain alias in Google Apps as www.mydomainalias.com and alpha.mydomainalias.com, because if I added it to Google App Engine custom domains I got an error message ("We are unable to process your request at this time. Please try again later. (Error #1000)"). I have no idea why it that did not work out.
The easier approach is to do traffic splitting on a cookie level compared to setting up extra subdomains AND extra SSL certificates.
The domain name to access your alpha version does not have to change using this approach.
from the docs :
The response from your app does not already contain a Set-Cookie:
GOOGAPPUID=... header. This allows your app to control which version a
user gets.
I know the Google App Engine docs say you can only have HTTPS on your foo.appspot.com domain, not with a custom domain.
But is it possible (and safe) to host a custom domain somewhere else, and set it up to proxy all HTTPS requests to https://foo.appspot.com?
If so, how would you recommend setting it up? And would it be much slower, compared to using https://foo.appspot.com directly?
Yes, it's possible to do this. It's secure if you trust your proxy and you use SSL from the proxy to the app. It will be noticeably slower, since there's a longer path between your user and your app. In addition, unless you get multiple proxies, all your traffic will have to go via a single global location, whereas the appspot domain is served from frontends all round the globe.
We are starting a very large web based service project. We are trying to decide what hosting environment to use. We would really like to use Google App Engine for scalability reasons and to eliminate the need to deal with servers ourselves.
Secure logins/registrations is very important to us, as well as using our own domain. Our target audience is not very computer savvy. For this reason, we don't want to have the users have to sign up with OpenID as this can't be done within our site. We also do not want to force our customers to sign up with Google.
As far as I can see, I am out of luck. I am hoping to have a definite answer to this question. Can I have an encrypted login to our site accessed via our domain, without having to send the customers to another site for the login (OpenID/Google).
Thanks.
The hardest part is getting around the cookie issue. While you can do secure and custom logins against https://yourdomain.appspot.com, you cannot set a cookie there that will work on http://yourdomain.com.
Here is what I propose:
When you need to log the user in, send them to https://yourdomain.appspot.com. If they enter the credentials properly, create a one-time token and place it either in the datastore or in memcache. Give it a lifetime of a few seconds.
Then redirect the user back to http://yourdomain.com/authenticate?token=mytoken (obviously substitute the names as appropriate), check to make sure that the token is valid and has not expired, and if all is clear, set the appropriate cookies and expire the token.
I think that'd work just fine. Hope it helps!
As of June 27, 2012, App Engine supports SSL for custom domains.
http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2012/06/google-app-engine-170-released-at.html
There is nothing stopping you from creating your own authentication/registration mechanism with Google App Engine. The only problem is that Google App Engine currently only supports HTTPS via https://yourid.appspot.com and not your Google Apps Domain (i.e. https://www.foobar.com). However, this is on the product roadmap for future support (SSL for third-party domains). Note, also on the product roadmap is built-in support for OAuth & OpenID.
Update: Another option may be to use a proxy server (like Apache with mod_proxy) and map your domain to the proxy server and then the proxy server can proxy the HTTP and HTTPS requests to Google App Engine. The requests could be proxied to the appspot.com domain behind the scenes. I haven't actually done this, but I believe it should work. However, this would give you a single point of failure at the proxy server which basically defeats the purpose of Google App Engine's high-availability and scalability. This would definitely just be a short-term solution until Google supports SSL for third-party domains or OpenID.
Depending on whether your threat model can accept a non-encrypted link on the "last hop" to GAE, you can use a proxy to handle SSL from the browser. Here's a HOWTO I wrote up on using CloudFlare to get always-on SSL:
http://blorn.com/post/20185054195/ssl-for-your-domain-on-google-app-engine
This isn't structurally any different than the way SSL from Google will work, it's just that Google-provided SSL will terminate within G's network rather than just outside it. If you're trying to protect against Firesheep, CloudFlare (or any other SSL proxy) will do fine. If you're worried about snoops on the trunk connection between CF and Google, you may want a more sophisticated solution.
I'm building a application that supports different domains. A small CMS that supports different domains.
But what I can't figure out is how to redirect other domains that's outside google apps. I have a domain at google apps, that work's perfectly.
When I create a cname that points at either my appid.appspot.com or www.appsdomain.com it just goes to google.com.
What do I need to do so the other domains point to my appengine application.
..fredrik
You can't just use a cname because google needs to know how to direct the requests through their infrastructure to your app.
You should follow the instructions here: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/domain.html to set up your name with their infrastructure so that requests to the cname get routed correctly.
Update: You do not have to move your domain to google, only inform them of the names you are going to set up cnames to point to them.
You can do that without a cname.
You need to set up a redirection mechanism of your second domain name. You can do that either by telling your registrar to redirect that url to your Google Apps url (that's how I do it with my registrar, name.com), or you could set up a small [php] script on a server you manage that would receive the queries on the second domain and issue a 301 redirect to your Google Apps domain.
EDIT: It all depends on what you want to do. If you want your app to live at both urls, then this solution will not work. I wrote this in the idea that you want the second url to redirect to your main url, if that's not what you want to do, then issuing redirects won't do the trick.
I've been fooling around with the Google App Engine for a few days and I have a little hobby application that I want to write and deploy.
However I'd like to set it up so that users are not directly accessing the app via appspot.com.
Is hosting it through Google Apps and then pointing it at my own domain the only way to go? I looked at that a little bit and it seemed like a pain to implement but maybe I'm just missing something.
My other thought was to write the app-engine piece as a more generic web-service.
Then I could have the user-facing piece be hosted anywhere, written in any language, and have it query the appspot.com url.
Anyone have any luck with the web-service approach?
The reason Google Apps is required is because you need somewhere to a) verify you own the domain (otherwise, you might point it at app engine, then I might hijack it by adding it to my account) and b) set up domain mappings (which subdomains point to which of your appengine apps).
Since this stuff already exists in Apps, it seems silly to duplicate it in AppEngine.
As has been pointed out, it doesn't cost anything, and you do not need to "move" anything to Google. You simple created a cname record with a random name to verify you own the domain, and a cname for the subdomain you wish to point at App Engine. This only takes a few minutes, and once it's done, it's done forever.
Note: If you host your site elsewhere and use webservices, you need to scale the site/frontend. If you host on app engine, you get this for free :-)
I wrote an article on my blog about redirecting *.appspot.com domains to your custom domain to keep your branding:
http://blog.dantup.com/2009/12/redirecting-requests-from-appid-appspot-com-to-a-custom-domain
To do this, I believe you need to be using Google Apps and have a custom domain setup for Google Apps. Then, you deploy your app into your Google Apps domain.
Here is google's official instructions on how to do that:
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/domain.html
I have used this process for a couple of sites and it is easy and painless, provided you have control on the DNS records for your domain (you should).
OK, we're now at the end of 2017 and things are a lot different regarding App Engine and custom domains. It's easy now!
Go to the app engine dashboard for your app and choose Settings, then go to the Custom Domains tab. From there, choose Add custom domain.
The tricky part is that Google needs to verify that you control the domain, so they ask you to put a TXT record in the DNS for your domain. Once you do that and Google it, you become "verified" as the owner of the domain.
After that, Google will give you a bunch of A and AAAA (for IP6) records to put in your DNS. Once you've done that, you should be good to go.
It can be easily done using request.getRequestURI() method. If the URL doesn't include your domain, just redirect it to the desired URL using
resp.sendRedirect("<your domain>")
Otherwise load a error page using
request.getRequestDispatcher("<error-page>").forward(request, response);