2 part question:
1st
What is the best way to setup a table/relationship structure given the following scenario: I have many tables that store different kinds of data (ie: books, movies, magazine - each as different tables) and then one table that stores reviews that can link to any of the table types. So a row in the review table can link to either books or magazines table.
How I have it now is that there is a 3rd table that defines the available tables and gives them an ID number. There ends up being no true relationship stored that goes from Reviews to Books. Is this the best way to do this?
2nd
How do I represent the fake relationship in Entity Framework? I can do a query that would join the 3 tables, but is there a way to model it in the table mapping instead?
The other way to think of it is to consider BOOKS, MOVIES, MAGAZINES as sub-types of REVIEWABLE_ITEMS. They probably share some common characteristics - without knowing more about your problem domain it would be hard to be sure. The advantage of this approach is that you can model REVIEWS as a dependency of REVIEWABLE_ITEMS, giving you both a single table for Reviews and an enforceable relationship.
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Yes, this is just like extending types in the OO paradigm. You don't say which flavour of database you're intending to use but this article by Joe Celko shows how to do it in SQL Server. The exact same implementation works in Oracle, and I expect it would work in most other RDBMS products too.
It really depends on how you want to access/view the reviews.
I would implement one table for each kind of revew: one for books, one for movies, etc. with a one-to-many relationship for each of them (between books and books reviews, movies and movie reviews, etc). If you need all the reviews in one table, create a view which selects all reviews with a UNION ALL.
Either you include a concept "reviewable", which can be either a book or a magazine or ... , and to which "reviews" can refer, or else you can have a concept "review", which can either be a "book review" that can reference a book, or a "magazine review" that can reference a magazine, or a "newspaper review" that can reference a newspaper, ...
Because truly relational systems do not exist, you cannot do without explicitizing one of those two abstractions in your database design. (Unless perhaps if you are willing to implement a lot of trigger code.)
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There is a Book table that is always unique with title, edition, and author.
And I want all bookstores to add their books, but different bookstores can have the same book with different pricing. So I come up with this table design.
So when one bookstore tries to add a book and the book is already been added by another bookstore the current bookstore should have to just fill in the pricing detail, not including the book detail.
The problem with this is, what if the book detail already been added has some missing or incorrect info? in this case, the current bookstore can flag and moderators or admins can fix it.
Is there any better way to achieve this? I don't comfortable with this design logic at all.
Your design makes sense. You want to keep the "static" information in 1 table, and link "dynamic" information like you did.
Your other question is related to data integrity. You can put "not null" conditions on fields to ensure all fields are filed, but garbage entries are always possible. This is a universal problem.
Potential solutions to mitigate this:
any and all data that can be selected instead of typed in should be linked via another table. Ex:
BookGenre
bookgenreid PK
genre CHAR
Book
bookid PK
genre FK, BookGenre.bookgenreid
...
So you store all possible genres in a separate table, so your users cannot invent new genres or mistype values. Same for authors, countries, ... This makes it easier to build queries as well and avoid things like [ SciFi, Science Fiction, Sciance fiction, ... ]
not everyone should be able to enter new books in the system. Ex. when I worked at a wholesale distributor, only a select group employees could create new products in the database, and they had established a convention on how to do it. They worked closely with purchasing and receiving. You will need to dedicate "data administrators".
So try to control as much as you can in the database and - or the application. Avoid free text fields as much as possible, as users will always think of new ways to mess it up. Ex. at work currently we have a HUGE project to standardise addresses between unlinked systems. It is a enormous undertaking, which involves AI. All this only because no 2 persons enter addresses exactly the same.
So because I have 4 different product types (books, magazines, gifts, food) I can't just put all products in one "products" table without having a bunch of null values. So I decided to break each product up into their own tables but I know this is just wrong (https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/742/23126857873_438655b10f_b.jpg).
I also tried creating an EAV model for this (https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5734/23479108770_8ae693053a_b.jpg), but I got stuck as I'm not sure how to link the publishers and authors tables.
I know this question has been asked a lot but I don't understand ANY of the answer's I've seen. I think this is because I'm a very visual learner and this makes it hard to understand what's being talked about when not a lot of information is given.
Your model is on the right track, except that the product name should be sufficient you don't need Gift name, book name etc. What you put in those tables is the information that is specific to the type of product that the other products don't need. The Product table contains all the common fields. I would use productid in the child tables rather than renaming it giftID, magazineID etc. It is easier to remember what things are celled when you are consistent in nameing them.
Now to be practical, you put as much as you can into the product table especially if you are going to do calculations. I prefer the child tables in this specific case to have what is mostly display information. So product contains the product name, the cost, the type of product, the units the product is sold in etc. The stuff that generally is needed to calculate the cost of an order or to have a report of what was ordered. There may be one or two fields that can contain nulls, but it simplifies the calculation type queries so much it might be worth it.
The meat of the descriptive details though would go in the child table for the type of product. These would usually only be referenced when displaying the product in the shopping area and only one at a time, so you can use the product type to let you only join to the one child table you need for display. So while the order cares about the product number and name and cost calculations, it probably doesn't need to go line by line describing the book ISBN number or the megapixels in a camera. But the description page of the product does need those things.
This approach is not purely relational, although it mostly is, but it does group the information by the meanings of the data and how they will be used which will make the database easier to understand and query. I am a big fan of relational tables because database just work better when they hit at least the third normal form but sometimes you can go too far for practicality, so the meaning of the data and the way you are grouping to use the data (and not just for the user interface, but for later reporting as well) is almost always one of my considerations in design.
Breaking each product type into its own table is fine - let the child tables use the same id as the parent Product table, and create views for the child tables that join with Product
Your case is a classic case of types and subtypes. This is often called class/subclass in object modeling and generalization/specialization in ER modeling. It's a well understood pattern. There are known techniques for dealing with this pattern.
Visit the following tabs, and read the description under the info tab (presented as "learn more"). Also look over the questions grouped under these tags.
single-table-inheritance class-table-inheritance shared-primary-key
If you want to rean in more depth use these buzzwords to search for articles on the web.
You've already discovered and discarded single table inheritance on your own. Other answers have pointed you at shared primary key. Class table inheritance involves a single table for generalized data as well as the four specialized tables. Shared primary key is generally used in conjunction with class table inheritance.
I have to implement a testing platform. My database needs the following tables: Students, Teachers, Admins, Personnel and others. I would like to know if it's more efficient to have the FirstName and LastName in each of these tables, or to have another table, Persons, and each of the other table to be linked to this one with PersonID.
Personally, I like it this way, although trickier to implement, because I think it's cleaner, especially if you look at it from the object-oriented point of view. Would this add an unnecessary overhead to the database?
Don't know if it helps to mention I would like to use SQL Server and ADO.NET Entity Framework.
As you've explicitly mentioned OO and that you're using EntityFramework, perhaps its worth approaching the problem instead from how the framework is intended to work - rather than just building a database structure and then trying to model it?
Entity Framework Code First Inheritance : Table Per Hierarchy and Table Per Type is a nice introduction to the various strategies that you could pick from.
As for the note on adding unnecessary overhead to the database - I wouldn't worry about it just yet. EF is generally about getting a product built more rapidly and as it has to cope with a more general case, doesn't always produce the most efficient SQL. If the performance is a problem after your application is built, working and correct you can revisit and fix up the most inefficient stuff then.
If there is a person overlap between the mentioned tables, then yes, you should separate them out into a Persons table.
If you are only tracking what role each Person has (i.e. Student vs. Teacher etc) then you might consider just having the following three tables: Persons, Roles, and a bridge table PersonRoles.
On the other hand, if each role has it's own unique fields, then you should carry on as you are and leave each of these tables separate with a foreign key of PersonID.
If the attributes (i.e. First Name, Last Name, Gender etc) of these entities (i.e. Students, Teachers, Admins and Personnel) are exactly the same then you could just make a single table for all the entities with PersonType or Role attribute added to distinguish each person's role. However, if the entities has a lot of different attributes then it would be better that you create separate tables otherwise you will have normalization problem.
Yes that is a very bad way of structuring a DB. The DB structure should be designed based on the Normalizations.
Please check the normalization forms.
U should avoid the duplicate data as much as possible, else the queries will become slower.
And the main problem is when u r trying to get data that is associated with more than one or two tables.
I'm currently building a forum component for a larger application and I'm considering different approaches to certain parts of the database schema. In particular, I am considering representing topics and posts in a single table. While I view topics and posts as practically the same, I feel a bit apprehensive as this may make things less flexible in the future.
When topics of a particular forum are queried, the title and first post will be shown as well as some of the user information (basically the name and avatar). In this application, there are various attributes that are used by both topics and posts except for views and replies; and perhaps title, and forum_id(forum_id because that would mean potentially hundreds of records need to be affected if a topic is changed to another forum as opposed to changing the forum_id attribute in the topic relation).
The tables look something like what I have below here:
TOPIC POST
topic_id poster_id
forum_id topic_id
poster_id content
title upvote
views dnvote
replies closed
post_id deleted
last_edited
last_editor
parent_id
content
post_id
Doing it this way, using table inheritance, generating the posts in the topic would require a 4-table join via TOPIC, POST, USER, and TOPIC_TYPE.
On the other hand, if I decide to take the single table approach, should I simply leave the views, replies, title, and forum_id attributes as null if the topic_type is a regular post? (topic_type references an appropriate icon for the type of topic displayed, and will be used for statistics and etc.)
If you are definitely committed to using relational technology (I would consider NoSQL db for this like Mongo, etc. as well) I would separate into two tables as you proposed.
Your case here is a fundamental of relational master-detail design or whole-parts and I think that two tables are appropriate.
I think in this scenario simple normalization is preferred. It will also be useful to generate different types of reports as well. Although single table may be used but as you have designed the table in this case if you use two tables that would be more manageable to avoid entry of same value multiple times.
It might be worthwhile to distinguish between a "topic" and a "topic starter" as such. A "topic starter" is a comment that is not a reply. Every topic has exactly one topic starter, which could be referenced by a foreign key in the topic table.
Other than that, I agree with both your analysis and your design.
This is probably a simple problem for an experienced database developer, but I'm struggling... I have trouble translating a certain ER diagram to a DB model, any help is appreciated.
I have a setup similar to slide 17 of this presentation:
http://www.cbe.wwu.edu/misclasses/mis421s04/presentations/supersubtype.ppt
Slide 17 shows an ER diagram with an Employee supertype having an Employee Type attribute and as subtypes the Employee Types themselves (Hourly, Salaried and Consultant), which is very similar to my design situation.
In my case, suppose Salaried Employees are the only ones that can be bosses of other employees and I wanted to somehow indicate if a certain Salaried employee is the boss of the Hourly and/or Salaried Employee and/or Consultant (either, none or both), how could that be designed in a database model, also considering these are one-to-many relationships?
I can put a PK-FK relationship between them, which would result in all tables having two FKeys and (like Consultant having FK_Employee and FK_SalariedEmployee) and SalariedEmployee referencing itself, but I keep thinking that might not be the wisest solution....although I'm not sure why (integrity issues?).
Is this or an acceptable solution or is there a better one?
Thanks in advance for any help!
Your case looks like an instance of the design pattern known as “Generalization Specialization” (Gen-Spec for short). The gen-spec pattern is familiar to object oriented programmers. It’s covered in tutorials when teaching about inheritance and subclasses.
The design of SQL tables that implement the gen-spec pattern can be a little tricky. Database design tutorials often gloss over this topic. But it comes up again and again in practice.
If you search the web on “generalization specialization relational modeling” you’ll find several useful articles that teach you how to do this. You’ll also be pointed to several times this topic has come up before in this forum.
The articles generally show you how to design a single table to capture all the generalized data and one specialized table for each subclass that will contain all the data specific to that subclass. The interesting part involves the primary key for the subclass tables. You won’t use the autonumber feature of the DBMS to populate the sub class primary key. Instead, you’ll program the application to propagate the primary key value obtained for the generalized table to the appropriate subclass table.
This creates a two way association between the generalized data and the specialized data. A simple view for each specialized subclass will collect generalized and specialized data together. It’s easy once you get the hang of it, and it performs fairly well.
In your specific case, declaring the "boss of" FK to reference the PK in the Salaried Employees table will be enough to do the trick. This will produce the two way association you want, and also prevent employees who are not salaried from being referenced as bosses.