SQL Server 2005 "public" database role doesn't seem to apply? - sql-server

I have a SQL Server 2005 database that I'm trying to access as a limited user account, using Windows authentication. I've got BUILTIN\Users added as a database user (before I did so, I couldn't even open the database). I'm working under the assumption that everybody is supposed to have permissions for the "public" role applied to them, so I didn't do anything with role assignment. Under tblFoo, I can use the SSMS Properties dialog (Permissions page) to add "public", then set explicit permissions. Among these is "Grant" for SELECT. But running
SELECT * from tblFoo;
as a limited (BUILTIN\Users) account gives me an error "Select permission denied on object 'tblFoo', database 'bar', schema 'dbo'". In the properties dialog, there's an "Effective Permissions button, but it's greyed out.
Further, I tried creating a non-priv account called "UserTest", adding that at the server level, then mapping it down to the "bar" database. This let me add UserTest to the "Users or Roles" list, which let me run "Effective Permissions" for the account. No permissions are listed at all -- this doesn't seem right. The account must be in public, and public grants (among other things) Select on tblFoo, so why doesn't the UserTest account show an effective permission? I feel like I'm going a bit crazy here.
ASIDE: I am aware that many people don't like using the "public" role to set permissions. This is just my tinkering time; in final design I'm sure we'll have several flexible (custom) database roles. I'm just trying to figure out the behavior I'm seeing, so please no "don't do that!" answers.
UPDATE: Apparently I know just enough SQL Server to be a danger to myself and others. In setting permissions (as I said, "among others"), I had DENY CONTROL. When I set this permission, I think I tried to look up what it did, had a vague idea, and decided on DENY. I cannot currently recall why this seemed the thing to do, but it would appear that that was the reason I was getting permission failures. So I'm updating my question: can anyone explain the "CONTROL" permission, as it pertains to tables?

You only need to have SELECT rights. In raw SQL (see the "script" icon/button in your dialogue box), it's GRANT SELECT ON dbo.tblFoo to public. This is the only permission needed to view the data,
In this case, the error message explicitly mentions "deny". "DENY" is a right in itself, so it mentions it,
If you had no rights, you'd get the message (very approximately) "tblFoo does not exist or you do not have rights"
"DENY CONTROL" is mentioned here. In this case, you denied all rights to the public role.
The grantee effectively has all
defined permissions on the securable

Assuming "UserTest" is a domain user account, connect as a member of the sysadmin role and run
EXEC MASTER.dbo.xp_logininfo 'Domain\UserTest', 'all'
(substituting your domain name for "Domain")
this will display the Windows groups etc. that the account is inheriting security permissions from and the level of access, e.g. you would expect to see something like:
account name type privilege mapped login name permission path
domain\usertest user user domain\usertest BUILTIN\Users
This will help troubleshoot where the account is inheriting permissions from, e.g. which Windows groups it is part of that have permissions to the database. If this all looks OK then I would follow your own advice and not mess with the public role.
Create a database role in your
database
Assign explicit permissions for that
role
Create a server login for your user
account
Open the server login, go to the
User Mapping section, click on the
database and select the database
role you created

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Azure SQL Database roles and access

What harm can a user with GRANT SELECT ON database.dbo.view TO User access can do? The user can see Security folder in SSMS, roles and can also see master database, roles, etc.? Is there a way we can restrict the user to not see or modify any security roles/groups but can see only a view?
Many Thanks!
In SSMS, a new user will not see the database tables/views without proper roles/permission provided to them but they can see the database objects like Security Users, schema or Roles etc., however they still cannot perform any actions on them if they don't have proper permissions granted to them. As an example if you created a new user and granted a select for a single view, that user will just be able to Select from the view and not able to do anything else on it like altering/deleting the view. Also same user can see the security objects but cannot make any changes on them as well.
We can hide the databases from user in SSMS by using below statement but this is going to hide all the database(even the database in which user has access to see the view).
DENY VIEW ANY DATABASE TO <login name>

SQL Server Management Studio server roles

I dont know if im doing something completely wrong or im just missing the point of SQL Server security.
Here's what I'm trying to do using SSMS, a simple two-level access (network\DomainUsers, network\SQLAdmins).
Domain users would not be unable to view any tables within SSMS but can access data via applications.
SQLAdmins see all
To start with I thought I had it cracked by setting up a new server role for domain users and assigning view and database/definition permisions then removing these from the public role - no joy!
Staying with the same settings I then branches down to the table to grant permissions but again no joy.
I've setup several roles / users and applied all forms of permissions but as soon as database/definition is altered in public it overrides everything. I thought public was a default setting which then became redundant when other roles became active?
Can someone please point me in the correct direction before either my head pops or the machine learns to fly :-)
SSMS: v17.8.1
SQL Server: 2012
Depending on how you actually defined your roles (which isn't clear from your question) it can simply be that you DENY view any database on the public role. This will in turn make it so everyone is denied. Because everyone is always a part of the public role. (This is why messing with the public role is a bad idea).
Deny's trump Grants. So no matter what you grant them later on, the deny overrides it. So if you denied it at the top level, it will stay like that no matter what you specify later on.
The exception to this is, that you can always see the objects that you own. And members of the sysadmin server role can't be denied since they always jump in as the owner. So you can technically hide all databases by revoking view permissions on the public database. But then you need to make a shared login and assign ownership to the databases that you want to be viewable.
Of note is that in this case, it means they can do whatever they want in said databases. Since you can't 'deny' them rights in something they own (which is why they can view it in the first place).
In overall, you're better off finetuning roles on the DB level, or making some custom server roles depending on what you want to accomplish.
Note, unless you messed with the public role. Logins with no user mapping in a database can't see the tables within a database, they can only see the existance of the database itself.

SQL Server db_owner

in my SQL2008 I have a user which is in the "db_datareader", "db_datawriter" and "db_ddladmin" DB roles, however when he tries to modify a table with SSMS he receives a message saying:
You are not logged in as the database owner or system administrator. You might not be able to save changes to tables that you do not own.
Of course, I would like to avoid such message, but until now I did find the way...
Therefore, I try to modify the user by adding him to the "db_owner" role, and of course I do not have the message above.
My question is:
Is it possible to keep the user in the "db_owner" role, but deny some actions like alter user or ? I try "alter any user" securable on DB level, but it does not work...
THANKS!
If the user is part of db_ddladmin it shouldn't be a problem. This is just a warning
Members of the db_ddladmin fixed database role can run any Data Definition Language (DDL) command in a database. It is probably just a warning from SSMS, try it out create a user and try to alter some tables
My understanding has always been that any user with db_owner rights can do anything to a database, up to and including dropping it. Certainly, this was true through SQL 2005. I've heard nothing to imply that this has changed with SQL 2008.
Those are indeed warnings, and I don't see any way to disable that type of warning in SSMS.
In 2008R2 the behavior I'm seeing is users with "db_datareader", "db_datawriter" and "db_ddladmin" still need to be granted view definition to be able to make edits in SSMS by right-clicking and selecting design. If you haven't granted view definition, then the design view will open (with warnings) read-only.
See: MSFT Connect Bug
To me it seems more discoverable to assign view definition permissions to your ddladmin users through a role, rather than doing it for specific user accounts as stated in the workaround on Connect. This will add a db_definitionviewer database role:
USE <DB Name>;
CREATE ROLE db_definitionviewer;
GRANT VIEW DEFINITION TO db_definitionviewer;
EXEC sp_addrolemember 'db_definitionviewer', '<DOMAIN\group> | <DOMAIN\User>';

Finding out the windows group by virtue of which a user is able to access a database in sql server?

There is a SQL Server 2005 database with mixed-mode authentication.
Among others, we have the following logins on the server: our-domain\developers-group-1, and our-domain\developers-group-2 which are AD groups.
The our-domain\developer-group-2 is added to the sysadmin role on the server, by virture of which all domain users of that group can access any database as SQL Server implictly maps the sysadmin role to the dbo user in each database.
There are two users our-domain\good-user and our-domain\bad-user
The issue is the following: Both the good-user and the bad-user have the exact same AD group memberships. They are both members of our-domain\developers-group-1 and our-domain\developers-group-2. The good-user is able to access all the databases, and the bad-user is not. The bad-user is able to login, but he is unable access any databases. By the way, I am the good-user.
How do I go about finding out why?
Here's what I tried so far:
When I do print current_user, I get dbo
When I do print system_user, I get my-domain\good-user
When I do select * from fn_my_permissions(NULL, 'SERVER'), I see permissions.
But if do execute as user='my-domain\good-user'; select * from fn_my_permissions(NULL, 'SERVER'), I dont see any permisisons.
And When I do, execute as user='my-domain\bad-user'; select * from fn_my_permissions(NULL, 'SERVER'), I dont see any permisisons.
Also, I was wondering if there is a sql command that will tell me, "hey! the current database user is able to access this database because he is a member such-and-such ad-group, which is a login that is mapped to such-and-such user in this database".
If you have the relevant permissions within Management Studio, this shouldn't take too long to work out. It sounds like the bad-user AD group has limited permissions within SQL Server.
You need to check the settings in Security in the GUI, and check the mappings for each of these AD groups - clicking on the databases to see what permissions they have on each database.
Is it possible that you simply have implicit permissions as the creator/owner of the objects, yet no explicit permissions have been granted on the AD groups/roles or to your user individually?

SQL Server 2005 Security

Here is the scenario. I have a SQL Server 2005 production database/server. It currently has developers and supporters who can connect to it. I need to create a security module that gives developers read-only access to all areas of the database. This means that a developer should be able to view all objects as well as scheduled activities/jobs only.
Is it possible to enable security in this way and if so can I be gently guided on how to achieve this. I am learning to be a DBA and creating snapshots of the databases are not an option.
Thank you all in advance.
There is permission to every object.
Create a stored procedure that grant each gruop the exact permission you need on the objects you need to protect.
I'm not quite sure I follow where this "security module" will be in the architecture. Anyhow, here's one possibility that secures it from the database end.
I'm going to assume you already have users created.
Create a new role (yourdb > security > roles > new database role), say "ReadOnlyDevelopers". Make the owner dbo or whatever makes sense. Do not select any schemas to be owned by the role. Populate the "Role Members" with your developers.
Next, open the properties page on your database. Go to the permissions page. Click Add... and add the new role. Under the permissions grid at the bottom, Grant SELECT to the role.
Now assuming your developers already belong to some other role, you'll need to go into the user properties and under Database Role Membership restrict them to just the new role. At this point they should be able to just read
I'm guessing that I'm missing a detail or two (the role may need to be grated a few additional rights to "see" the database, alter passwords, etc.) but I can't get to that level of detail without setting up the entire scenario. Hopefully this pushes you in the right direction.

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