I need to upsize a split Access database, i.e., one that's currently split between tow mdb files, a front-end and back-end. I see many webpages that in essence say, "run the Upsizing Wizard." My first, very basic question:
Should I be running this wizard in my front-end mdb or my back-end mdb?
I assume I don't want to link main mdb -> backend mdb -> sql server. Should I run the wizard on the backend mdb, and then in the frontend mdb change the linked tables to point to sql server rather than to the backend mdb? If so, how is this done? When I right-click and go into the Linked Table Manager for a table in the frontend (linked to the backend md), it only seems to let me choose a new mdb file.
I would agree with your first guess: you will want to run the wizard on the back-end mdb.
Once that's in SQL Server, also as you guessed, you'll want to link the front end to work with the SQL Server data. One way to do this is to set up an ODBC data source for your new SQL Server database and select that in the Linked Table Manager.
Open the Data Sources (ODBC) shortcut: in XP Pro, this is in the Control Panel under Administrative Tools. (If you don't see it, you probably don't have permission to create a data source, so you'll have to work with your network people to do this.) This will open the ODBC Administrator.
On the File DSN tab, click Add.... You'll see a list of available drivers. Select SQL Server and click Next. (If the front end is only being used on your machine, you can create a System DSN instead.)
Find a common location and name your data source.
Click Next and Finish. This will set up the first part of the data source, and will open the SQL Server data source wizard.
Name the data source and select the server on which you've put the upsized back-end database.
Change the rest of the settings as needed (you may not need to change much, but the scope of those changes may require a second question) and click through to Finish.
Once you have the data source set up, then Get External Data should give you the option to select it as your source. (In 2007, you can get there from the External Data ribbon. ODBC data sources are available under More.)
To expand a little further based on Matt's follow-up questions:
How you do it is a design choice. I recommend upsizing the back-end mdb because that would allow you to keep whatever forms and such you had in Access; I think it's less of a transition if your data is in SQL Server.
Before you upsized, your tables were linked to the back-end database, and the Linked Table Manager showed the links. After you set up the ODBC data source and linked those tables, it'll show that link. You'll view the links in two different ways because they're actually different types of links (Access vs. ODBC), even though the links may look the same in your front-end mdb.
Personally I have found that the upsizing wizard does a very bad job of determining correct datatypes. I would create the tables myself in SQL server using the datatypes I need, then move the data to the existing tables from Access. other wise you will be stuck with text data when you could use varchar or float when you really need decimal.
Once the data has been moved then I would delete the Access tables and link to the SQL Server tables.
Do not do anything without having a backup copy of the database first.
As a matter of standard paranoia, I would just make a backup copy of the existing files and run the Upsizing Wizard on the front end. If anything undesirable happens, just revert the changes by overwriting with the backup copy.
Update the front end, and it will import the back end tables before it upsizes. I did this a week ago with a successful result.
However, any queries that use -1 instead of Yes will fail. Any full table deletes on tables without a primary key will fail, and you will get different behaviour from that than you will by merely using a pass-through SQL query to truncate table. The trunc will delete all rows, the Access version may leave a blank.
Also you'll need to include dbSeeChanges anywhere you have a recordset opening on a table with an autonumber column data type. SQL changes these to Identity data types, then gripes before you try to open the table. Good luck.
Do it all in the front end
You can simply export the tables to SQL Server.
You can then delete the linked tables you have in your frontend.
Then link the connection to SQL Server
Check:
when you open tables you get records
all your queries run
compile your code
You will also have to consider how you are releasing the front end. If you are using a dsn file you will need to provide that to each user.
You will need to determine how the end user accesses SQL Server. Are you using a single login with the username and password stored in the connection?
You could also split your backend DB into multiple Access DB and link them in the frontend.
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Desired result and why:
I have a lot of old Access databases that we are trying to get to SQL Server, and I'm essentially trying to make the Access DB the "middleman" so our old programs can still read/write to them but the information will also be saved in SQL Server. We need the middleman because of how interconnected these tables are through various programs we are rewriting in modern languages. Once we rewrite all of them we will cut the cord and live in SQL Server, but this will take a lot of time.
What I've tried:
We tried creating a linked table to SQL Server and renaming it so it would take the place of the original table. After doing this the table stopped receiving data so we quickly reverted back.
In order to investigate this I created Table B which is just another linked table to SQL Server, and then tried using the After Insert macro on Table A to send any new rows to the linked table but nothing happens. If I manually add a record to Table B it carries over to SQL Server just fine, but I can't get Table A to send data to Table B. I created Table C that is just a local access table and if I manually add a record to Table A it does show up in Table C. No errors at all, it just doesn't do what I need it to do.
I'm lost on how to accomplish this and open to any help or suggestions on how to move forward with this. One thing to note though, is that most of the access databases I have are not using forms at all which is I'm trying to take the macro route instead of any VBA. I need these to trigger without any interaction from the user.
You should use the tool dedicated to this task:
SQL Server Migration Assistant for Access (AccessToSQL)
Ok, there are from comments some new and signficant moving parts here.
For example, data is to be migrated to sql server. As noted, EVEN in access land, all and every table needs and should have a PK for the "basic" data base operations. While it is possible to do some work, and say some importing of data, the instant one wants some forms, VBA code and starts to build a working applcation? Then all tables should have a PK.
And of course if you moved the data to sql server, then it not going to make a lot of sense to have OTHER applcations attempt to modify the linked tables in access, since the data is not in Access anymore!!! Those other sources in theory should thus also hit sql server, and not attempt to use what amounts to a link on a linked table.
However, it does depend. For example, if you use vb.net code and say open a access database, you CAN in fact have that vb.net code open a access table, and in fact it can be a linked table. (however, it would make a WHOLE lot more sense for the vb.net code to open and hit sql server - introduction of a link on a link is going to be problematic.
However, in testing, I have found that say vb.net can open a access table, and even if it is a link, then access will translate though the jet engine (the access data engine), and you can do this.
However, data macros and table triggers on existing access tables? They might work on linked tables, but you of course need to ensure that the linked table does allow edits, and allows inserts. Only AFTER one has verified that you can click on a linked table to sql server - can edit, and then add should one mess around with data macros and triggers on say local tables.
it also depends on what the new software tools and platform is being used here.
But, from a basic database point of view - and general data mangement?
All code, and designs should assume, and be designed around the assumption that each row of data has a PK. This is not always possible, but is a RARE use case.
Practical data management - and use of a database should from both table designs, and from workflow designs, and from a developer point of view assume the concept of a PK row id. Without such assumptions, then you not in the software industry anymore - but in a hack field, and one that will result in great future difficulty when attempting to build work flows and build general information systems.
So, with above in mind: Your table B - it has to work as a valid sql server table.
The sql server table(s). They need a PK, and after linking to sql server, you can open up the linked table in access. Test if edits work, test if adding works, and even perhaps test if delete works. Only AFTER such time, do you now want to start testing any code or other operations from the Access client side.
Introduction of using a linked table from another application? That is a foggy area, but I can confirm for example that say .net oleDB provider will and can open a access database and use + consume even linked tables.
You also don't mention if you using sql logon, or windows auth for the sql server linked tables. But if you using sql logons, then when linking a table, you see this check box - and you want to ensure you selected this when linking the table(s) in question:
Note that you ONLY get this prompt on the first time create of the table link - additional use of the linked table manager (such as re-fresh links) does not offer this prompt. If you don't select the save password option, then you often see a sql logon prompt when you attempt to open a linked table in access.
Want to create a script to export Data and tables and views to a sql script.
I have SQL Server 2008 r2.
So far I've only been able to automatically generate an sqlscript for all tables and views. But the data wasn't included.
OR is there any easier way to export data, tables, views, from one SQL Server to my ISP's SQL server?
Regards
Tea
If for some reason a backup/restore won't work for you, SSMS' Generate Scripts tool includes an advanced scripting option to include data:
Here are some options to think over (prioritised in terms of what I would recommend):-
A simple backup and restore will be the easiest and quickest solution;
Using a data scripting tool (like Red-Gate's Data Compare) could solve your needs;
Use the database comparison as part of Visual Studio.
A SSIS package could be developed to pump data back and forth between the two instances; or
Write your own script using the SET IDENTITY INSERT ON / OFF command for the identity seeded tables
The easiest way to do this is to create a backup, copy the .bak file to the other server, and restore the backup there.
Like #jhewlett said that will be the best way to do it. to answer the question in the comment section. no it shouldn't be a problem. Just make sure that the SQL Server Versions are the same. Had a bit of an issue not to long ago where there were two pc's with different releases of the R2 installed and couldn't restore the backup. Other thing you can also do is to script the entire database with data, but this will not be recommended as it could take a long time to generate the script and for it to finish running on the other computer.
Or you can simply just stop the SQL server instance and copy the database away onto an external hard drive and re-attach it to the other server. just remember to start the instances after doing this step.
I use Navicat Premium for these kind of things in mysql. It generates sql from data, tables, views and anything else. It provides tools to copy or synchronize table from one database on different server or platforms as well. For example I use it so much to transfer my tables from MySQL to a SQLite database, So easy and fast. Otherwise I had to transfer it manually with so much trouble.
very good tool and required for any DB admin or programmer. It support MySQL, Oracle, MS SQL Server, PostgreSQL and SQLite.
To Generate a schema with data follow these steps.
Select database to generate a schema '>' right click '>' Tasks '>' Generate schema '>' click NEXT in popup window '>'
select DB object to generate schema and click NEXT '>'
Go to advance option and scroll down '>'
Find Type of data to script and select one option as you need. '>'
and then Next Next and finish it.
Enjoy it.
If you don't want to port all tables data (for example you need to port just some base data in special tables) scripting options is not useful for you. In this case you'll have two options. First is using some third parties tools such as Red-Gate and Second way is writing the script by yourself. I prefer Second option because except the expensive price of most of them i want to run just little script for little delete, update and inserting purpose. But the important problem is here: maybe the record count is too long to write scripts record by record. I Think the linked Server is good point to solve that. It's enough for describing Just Declare Linked Server as you see in Images and get new script in your source DB and write scripts with access to both source and destination DB. Attached image must be clear.
Create New Linked Server:
Write Destination SQL Server Address:
Fill Login Info:
Now you have Linked Server:
Write script and enjoy:
Hope this help.
I have an access 2003 database that holds all of my business data. This access database gets updated every few hours during the day.
We're currently writing a website that will need to use the data from the access database. This website (for the time being) will have only read only capabilities. Meaning there will only need to be one way transfer of data (Access -> SQL).
I'm imaging there's a way to perform this data migration from access to SQL server programatically. Does anyone have any links to something I can read about?
If this practice sounds odd, and you'd like to suggest another way to do this (or a situation where data can go both ways (Access -> SQL, SQL -> Access), that's perfectly fine.
The company is going to continue using Access 2003 for their business functionality. There's no way around that. But I'd like to build the (readonly) website on top of SQL Server.
The strategy you outlined can be very challenging. You could use INSERT queries to copy new Access rows to SQL Server, as described in another answer.
However, if you have changes to existing Access rows, and you also want those changes propagated to SQL Server, it won't be so simple. And it will be more complicated still if you want deleted Access rows deleted from SQL Server, too.
It seems more reasonable to me to use a different approach. Migrate the data to SQL Server once. Then replace the tables in your Access database with ODBC links to the SQL Server tables. Thereafter, changes to the data from within your Access application will not require a separate synchronization step ... they will already be in SQL Server. And you won't need to write any code to synchronize them.
If your concern is that the connections between the web server and SQL Server be read-only, just set them up that way. You can still independently allow read-write permissions for your Access application.
To do the initial data migration and set the SQL Server automatically, I would use the SQL Server Migration Assistant. The only thing you should definitely change that I can think of would be to turn off the Identity property on any columns that have it - to be explained below (MS Access calls Identity autonumber). Once you have your tables loaded, you can set up a dsnless connection to the database (and tables) you just created.
I haven't used the method just linked, but I believe it allows you to use SQL Server authentication to connect to the db. The benefit of using this method is you can easily change which SQL Server instance and/or database your are connecting to for development and testing.
There might be a better, automated way, but you can create several insert queries doing left joins from the primary key of the Access table to the SQL Server table, and putting a WHERE clause that specifies the SQL Server PrimaryKey must be null. This is why you need to turn off the Identity property in the SQL Server tables, so that you can insert the new data.
Finally, put the name of each query in one function, then run the function periodically.
I have used Microsoft's free SQL Server Migration Assistant (SSMA) to migrate Access to SQL Server. The tool is very simple to use. The only problem I have encountered with the tool was overloaded data types when migrating. What I mean by this is a small string will get converted to a NVARCHAR(MAX) in some instances. Otherwise, the tool is very handy and can be reused after setting up a 'profile'.
I have managed to get SQL Server 2005 Express up and running on my computer Ok in order to do some testing before trying this in the "Real World".
I have a fairly large MS Access 2007 Database application I need to migrate to SQL Server
retaining the "Front End" as the user interface. (The app' is already a "split" database
with a Front and Back end....)
I have done some initial testing on using SSMA to migrate my Access database To SQL
Server Express.
Clearly I don't understand some things and I thought I'd see if anyone has
any ideas.
Conceptually I thought that what needed to happen was that the Back End of the
database that resides on the server needed to be migrated to SQL server
and then the Front End re linked to the (now linked to SQL) tables in the Back End.
When I do this using SSMA I end up with renamed tables in the Back End
Access file that look something like "SSMA$myTableNameHere$local". I also
get the original table names underneath showing as ODBC linked tables.
So far so good.
BUT.... When I go to re-establish the linked tables from the FRONT END (The
user interface) all I can see is the "SSMA$myTableNameHere$local" names NOT
the original table names.(Now linked via ODBC)
I can link to the "SSMA,,,," tables but it would mean changing the names of
every table in every query and on every form and in all code on the Front
End! Not something I really want to do.
SO....
I thought I'd try to migrate the FRONT END and see what happens.
What I ended up with is a situation where, basically it works (there are
some serious errors and issues that I haven't even looked at yet... like
missing data etc.!!!!) and I still get the "SSMA$myTableNameHere$local"
tables and the ODBC linked tables with the original names.
I'm trying to understand...... Does this mean that we would do the
migration on the Front End and then just copy the same file to each user's
computer?
Another subject I'm a little confused about is that I can't link via ODBC
to SQL Server Express on the local machine (ie my computer) so I can't test
migrating the Back End and then linking to the tables via the Front End as I
have in the past in more of a client/server situation.
Assuming that SSMA replaces the tables in your back end with links to the SQL Server, all you need to do is delete the original table links in your front end and import the newly-created table links from the back end. You can then discard the back end, since it's not used for anything at all any longer.
I did transfer all my tables one by one to SQL Server 2005 fro Access DB back-end using ODBC.Instruction:
Open Access DB(back-end)
Right-click on table, you need to transfer
Scroll down drop-down box and select ODBC Databases
Select Data Source dialog box opened, Click "New" button
Create new data source dialog box opened
Scroll to the bottom and select SQL Server, Click Next
Give name to your Data Source, Click Next, Click Finish
Create New Data Source Dialog opens
Give some discription OR leave empty, Type Name of your SQL Server (you named it, when install SQL Server on your machine)
Click Next, Click Next
Check "change default database to check box
Select DB where you want your data transfer to
Click Next, Click Finish
NOTE: You need to create new DB (empty) on SQL Server, before doing all this
Now: Right-click any table, select Export, select from drop-down list ODBC, from Data Sources window select your Data Source, You created, Click OK
Use SQL Server with SQL Management Studio Express.
All dates must have a input mask; all text and Memo must have Allow Zero Length =Yes
After all disconnect all links from Access back-end, and establish links from SQL.RENAME all newly linked tables to old names. Use Fron-end user interfase, until do some new.
Forgive my lack of knowledge of Acronym Soup, but I assume SSMA is the SQL Server 2005 "import data wizard" or the wizard in Access to send the data to SQL Server. It appears that you sent the data to SQL Server from Access - something you don't want to do. You want to use the DTS in SQL Server (now called SSIS or something?) to import the data into SQL Server. Then you'll have your tables in SQL Server. Then, simply create your DSN entry for the SQL Server and re-link your tables. All should be well.
Overall, the general rule is to import Access tables using SQL Server instead of using Access to send the data to SQL Server.
I'd bite the bullet and rename the tables on the SQLServer side back to the friendly names that you had in the original database. You'll probably have less problems. Especially if you have any embedded code the MS Access side.
As far as how you will deploy the MS Access side now, it should be pretty much create the ODBC link on the user's workstation, and copy the MS Access file to their desktop (although you might want to make an MDE (or the 2007 equivalent) to prevent them from accidentally breaking it).
Frankly, now that you have migrated, you need to look at the design of your tables. It is my experience that the wizards for Access migration do a poor job of selecting the correct datatype. For instance if you had a memo field, you might easily get away with a varchar field instead but the last wizard I used (an earlier version) always converted them to text fields. Now would also be the time consider some fixes such as making date fileds datetime instead of character based if you have had that mistake in the past.
I would never consider using a wizard again to do data migration myself having experienced how very badly they can do it.
You will alos find that just converting the data to SQL Server is often not eough to really get any performance benefit. YOu will need to test all the queries and consider if you can convert them to stored procs instead if they are slow. Eliminating the translation from Jet SQL to T-sql can being performance improvements. Plus there are many features of t-sql that can imporve performance that do not have Access equivalents. Access is not big on performance tuning, but to get the benefit of performance tuning with a SQL Server backend, you need to have SQL Server specific queries written. INdexing needs to be considered if the Access tables were not indexed properly.
Using SSMA is different when you use odbc. If you have an application using fully access (back end and front end). You can manipulate objects easily bounding forms, using DAO, etc.. without problem, then when u need to migrate database to sql server u can use directly odbc (by linking yourself tables to sql server), ssma, ... the main problem how to preserve bounded forms, queries, code in the client-side.
If U use directly odbc you must relink by yourself all objects and change code but if u use ssma, you have to do nothing, you will continue to work as u did before. The problem with SSMA is how to deploy the front end to the clients if you developed client side in other place using another sql server?
I would like to copy a table from one database to another. I know you can easily do the following if the databases are on the same SQL Server.
SELECT * INTO NewTable FROM existingdb.dbo.existingtable;
Is there any easy way to do this if the databases are on two different SQL Servers, without having to loop through every record in the original table and insert it into the new table?
Also, this needs to be done in code, outside of SQL Server Management Studio.
Yes. add a linked server entry, and use select into using the four part db object naming convention.
Example:
SELECT * INTO targetTable
FROM [sourceserver].[sourcedatabase].[dbo].[sourceTable]
If it’s only copying tables then linked servers will work fine or creating scripts but if secondary table already contains some data then I’d suggest using some third party comparison tool.
I’m using Apex Diff but there are also a lot of other tools out there such as those from Red Gate or Dev Art...
Third party tools are not necessary of course and you can do everything natively it’s just more convenient. Even if you’re on a tight budget you can use these in trial mode to get things done….
Here is a good thread on similar topic with a lot more examples on how to do this in pure sql.
SQL Server(2012) provides another way to generate script for the SQL Server databases with its objects and data. This script can be used to copy the tables’ schema and data from the source database to the destination one in our case.
Using the SQL Server Management Studio, right-click on the source database from the object explorer, then from Tasks choose Generate Scripts.
In the Choose objects window, choose Select Specific Database Objects to specify the tables that you will generate script for, then choose the tables by ticking beside each one of it. Click Next.
In the Set Scripting Options window, specify the path where you will save the generated script file, and click Advanced.
From the appeared Advanced Scripting Options window, specify Schema and Data as Types of Data to Script. You can decide from here if you want to script the indexes and keys in your tables. Click OK.
Getting back to the Advanced Scripting Options window, click Next.
Review the Summary window and click Next.
You can monitor the progress from the Save or Publish Scripts window. If there is no error click Finish and you will find the script file in the specified path.
SQL Scripting method is useful to generate one single script for the tables’ schema and data, including the indexes and keys. But again this method doesn’t generate the tables’ creation script in the correct order if there are relations between the tables.
Microsoft SQL Server Database Publishing Wizard will generate all the necessary insert statements, and optionally schema information as well if you need that:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=56E5B1C5-BF17-42E0-A410-371A838E570A
Generate the scripts?
Generate a script to create the table then generate a script to insert the data.
check-out SP_ Genereate_Inserts for generating the data insert script.
Create the database, with Script Database as... CREATE To
Within SSMS on the source server, use the export wizard with the destination server database as the destination.
Source instance > YourDatabase > Tasks > Export data
Data Soure = SQL Server Native Client
Validate/enter Server & Database
Destination = SQL Server Native Client
Validate/enter Server & Database
Follow through wizard