Is cross compiler really required? - c

I came across two guides for making a simple kernel in C.
http://wiki.osdev.org/Bare_Bones
https://github.com/arjun024/mkernel
The first one develops a kernel for i686 architecture, while the second one develops for i386.
The main part I'm finding confusing is, we used a cross compiler to compile and link the first one, but didn't use any for second. So if compiling and linking the second one is possible without using a cross compiler, why are we using a cross compiler in the first?

A cross compiler is a compiler used to compile to a different platform or architecture. As said in the comments above, the osdev wiki has a lot of information on it. But in general, you don't need a crosscompiler only if you compile to the same platform as your host machine. If your host is x86_64, and you're making an operating system targeted to x86_64, you don't need a cross compiler. Otherwise, if you're on an x86_64 machine and are compiling for x86 (32 bit) or arm, you do need a cross compiler.
That having said, Michael Petch is completely correct in his comment that using a cross compiler usually is a very safe option, eliminating some problems related to host machines. Though I have never experienced these problems myself, they are valid concerns.

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is Program compiled by amd64 compiler executable and possible to run,work properly in x86 cpu?

is Program compiled by amd64 compiler executable and possible to run,work properly in x86 cpu??
I wanna know whether it's possible
and also im trying to develop some program in Qt
but I'm wondering at that why there is no qmake.exe that supports MSVC2017 32bit compiler
No. But a program written without reference to specific architecture dependent features (i.e anything written using standard c, c++, etc) can be compiled using different flags for different target architectures.
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.5.3/gcc/i386-and-x86_002d64-Options.html
If you are interested in why, looking at the spec for x86 or x86-64 will give you a sense of the answer. An architecture specification is alot more than a list of supported machine instruction. They have different memory architecure, different flags, different cpu modes, etc. And in addition to all this, specifications have hardware specific implementations (chips support different features). When you compile a executable binary, all of these differences must be taken into account.

is it possible to compile c for many architectures on linux?

I'm developing a few programs on my pc, that runs Ubuntu 64bit.
I'd like to run these applications on another pc, that runs on 32. Is possible to compile on my machine or do I need to recompile the applications on the other?
In general you need to provide the compiler an environment similar to the target execution environment. Depending on how similar or different one environment is to another, this may be simple or complicated.
Assuming the compiler is GCC, you should only need to add -m32 to your compilation flags to make them work on a 32 bit system; assuming all other things are equal. Ensure you have the necessary 32-bit dependencies installed on your system (this means the base C library dependencies as well as a 32 bit version for each library your application links against).
Since you are only compiling for x86 on a 64 bit host, the path to this is generally simple. I would recommend however setting up a dedicated environment which you can use to compile -- typically some kind of chroot (See pbuilder, schroot, chroot, debootstrap and others).
There are compiler settings/flags that should allow you to do this on your machine; which specific ones you need would depend on the compiler you are using.

Compiling sparc code for x86 and arm

Let's say I've got a collection of source code written for second-generation sparc processors, and some of the C code is architecture-dependent. How can I compile this code for x86 and ARM processors? I initially thought it'd be easy to use GCC and cross compile, but that seems to be too simple. Am I at least on the right track? Thanks!
You can compile it by using compilers that target the required platforms, on whatever host you like. If you're cross-compiling or not doesn't matter.
What matter is that if the code contains non-portable things, you're going to have to fix those manually. No compiler can do that for you.
For instance, if you assume that the code is running on a big-endian architecture, you're going to have to find all such places and fix them (since x86 and, typically, ARM too are both little-endian). Have fun.

GCC Error while compiling for ARM

I am getting the following error while trying to compile some code for an ARM Cortex-M4
using
gcc -mcpu=cortex-m4 arm.c
`-mcpu=' is deprecated. Use `-mtune=' or '-march=' instead.
arm.c:1: error: bad value (cortex-m4) for -mtune= switch
I was following GCC 4.7.1 ARM options. Not sure whether I am missing some critical option. Any kickstart for using GCC for ARM will also be really helpful.
As starblue implied in a comment, that error is because you're using a native compiler built for compiling for x86 CPUs, rather than a cross-compiler for compiling to ARM.
GCC only supports a single general architecture type in any given compiler binary -- so, although the same copy of GCC can compile for both 32-bit and 64-bit x86 machines, you can't compile to both x86 and ARM with the same copy of GCC -- you need an ARM-specific GCC.
(As auselen suggests, getting a pre-built one will save you quite a lot of work, even if you're only using it as a starting point to get things set up. You need to have GCC, binutils, and a C library as a minimum, and those are all separate open-source projects that the pre-built versions have already done the work of combining. I'll recommend Sourcery CodeBench Lite since that's the one my company makes and I do think it's a fairly good one.)
As the error message says -mcpu is deprecated, and you should use the other options stated. However "deprectated" simply means that its use may not continue to be supported; it will still work.
ARM Cortex-M4 is ARM Architecture V7E-M, so you should use -march=armv7-m (the documentation does not specifically list armv7e-m, but that may have been added since the documentation was last updated. The E is essentially the difference between M3 and M4 - the DSP instructions, so the compiler will not generate code that takes advantage of these instructions. Using ARM's Cortex-M DSP library is probably the best way to use these instructions to benefit your application. If your part has an FPU, then other options will be needed enable code generation for that.
Like others already pointed out, you are using a compiler for your host machine, and you need a compiler for generating code for your target processor instead (a cross compiler). Like #Brooks suggested, you can use a pre-built toolchain, but if you want to roll out your own cross-compiler, libc and binutils, there is a nice tool called Crosstool-NG. It greatly simplifies the process of building a cross-compiler optimized to generate code for a specific processor, so you're not stuck with a generic prebuilt toolchain, which usually builds code for a family of compatible processors (e.g. you could tune the toolchain for generating ASM for your specific target, or floating point code for a hardware FPU which is specific to your processor, instead of using only software floating point routines, which are default to most pre-built toolchains).

General questions about GCC and cross compiling

Recently I've been playing around with cross compiling using GCC and discovered what seems to be a complicated area, tool-chains.
I don't quite understand this as I was under the impression GCC can create binary machine code for most of the common architectures, and all that else really matters is what libraries you link with and what type of executable is created.
Can GCC not do all these things itself? With a single build of GCC, all the appropriate libraries and the correct flags sent to GCC, could I produce a PE executable for a Windows x86 machine, then create an ELF executable for an embedded Linux MIPS device and finally an executable for an OSX PowerPC machine?
If not can someone explain how you would achieve this?
With a single build of GCC, all the
appropriate libraries and the correct
flags sent to GCC, could I produce a
PE executable for a Windows x86
machine, then create an ELF executable
for an embedded Linux MIPS device and
finally an executable for an OSX
PowerPC machine? If not can someone
explain how you would achieve this?
No. A single build of GCC produces object code for one target architecture. You would need a build targeting Intel x86, a build targeting MIPS, and a build targeting PowerPC. However, the compiler is not the only tool you need, despite the fact that you can build source code into an executable with a single invocation of GCC. Under the hood, it makes use of the assembler (as) and linker (ld) as well, and those need to be built for the target architecture and platform. Usually GCC uses the versions of these tools from the GNU binutils package, so you'd need to build that for the target platform too.
You can read more about building a cross-compiling toolchain here.
I don't quite understand this as I was
under the impression GCC can create
binary machine code for most of the
common architectures
This is true in the sense that the source code of GCC itself can be built into compilers that target various architectures, but you still require separate builds.
Regarding -march, this does not allow the same build of GCC to switch between platforms. Rather it's used to select the allowable instructions to use for the same family of processors. For example, some of the instructions supported by modern x86 processors weren't supported by the earliest x86 processors because they were introduced later on (such as extension instruction sets like MMX and SSE). When you pass -march, GCC enables all opcodes supported on that processor and its predecessors. To quote the GCC manual:
While picking a specific cpu-type will
schedule things appropriately for that
particular chip, the compiler will not
generate any code that does not run on
the i386 without the -march=cpu-type
option being used.
If you want to try cross-compiling, and don't want to build the toolchain yourself, I'd recommend looking at CodeSourcery. They have a GNU-based toolchain, and their free "Lite" version supports quite a few architectures. I've used it for Linux/ARM and Android/ARM.

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