I am asking this in relation to this question: Batch: find file and rename it / find file and delete it
I am trying to do the same thing, except as the question states, I am trying to list all the users in and set each one to a variable, put a link to my program into the startup, then go to the next user, and do the same, but the users vary from workstation to workstation. So I need it to look at the folder name (in relation to the user account name of course) and use it as a variable in the xcopy command.. I am in a rush writing this, so let me know if you need any clarification, hopefully it makes sense. Thanks to anyone who helps! :)
Sounds like the Rube Goldberg method of software deployment. Just put a link to your program into the All Users profile.
copy shortcut.lnk "%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Start Menu\Programs\Startup\"
...and done.
I shudder to think of the maintenance nightmare your intended self-prescribed solution would cause. What happens when a new version of the software needs to be deployed? What if the updated version defaults to installing in a different directory than the previous? What happens when a user gets a new computer and hands-me-down the existing one to an intern / GA / lower-level peon? Goes on vacation and someone else fills in temporarily? You really should do the "All Users" thing.
Or even better, include it in your domain policy login script.
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I have been working on a system to push changes from my git repository to a live site. The issue is that on my local box (where only I have access) I leave db credentials defaults; but I don't want them to be defaults on the web.
What would be the best solution to have a few files that are only located on each development computer, and are never uploaded/committed, etc. I was thinking of throwing in an example file if anyone clones it down, that way they'd know how to create the real credentials file.
I'm pretty new to git, and so I don't think I have the experience to really come up with a good solution for this, so any help would be great.
Thanks,
Max
Your idea of committing an examples file and then not actually tracking the real file is a good one.
Just put the name of the real file in .gitignore so that no one will add it by accident.
I have an windows application (WPF) in which we are running on each login, however when the user first logs into a new PC the application will need to do some specific tasks, but only on the users first login and never on subsequent times.
Is there a way in .Net 3.5 to query wether the user has logged in before (ie some kind of login count)?
Failing any native support I will create a txt file in the users registry however I wanted to know if there is a native way of achieving this first.
We use redirected folders so the user may have already logged into a PC on our network these special events should only occur when the user hasnt logged in onto the PC and Windows has had to create a new profile for the user on the PC.
If I am not clearly explaining what I am seeking, please dont hesiate in letting me know.
Matt
Failing any native support I will create a txt file in the users registry however I wanted to know if there is a native way of achieving this first.
I'd recommend going with this option. Don't try to detect it, just create your own state on first run.
I suggest this, not because it is technically impossible to achieve the functionality you describe, but because it is a better user experience. It provides an easy way to re-do the action without having to recreate the user.
... a txt file in the users registry ...
I'm not sure what this means. You can create text files under the user's profile directory, and you can insert string values in the registry (but not files of any sort).
As for the particular mechanism, I suggest you consider:
An App.Config value. Clearing out the value is easier to support or batch-script than a registry value, and makes the user less scared that their machine will explode if you have to tell them to edit the settings. Users are scared of the registry.
A sentinel text file under the user profile directory. Wiping out the file is super-easy to support and batch-script. Instead of editing a text file, they can just delete one. But this makes it so you have multiple config mechanisms, so multiple points of failure. I'd only do this if I were using the App.Config for additional settings in the program and thought the user wouldn't be technical enough to hand edit it.
The windows registry. Remote registry access might be easier than remote file access, if you're having to do remote troubleshooting. It also might be easier to mess with via group policy, in case this is an intranet app and you need to force a re-run on all machines in your org.
I'd carefully consider my options and which is most likely to ease support (be understandable by my users) before committing to one. I'd also consider the remote-troubleshooting/remote reset scenario.
This may not be what you're looking for but I'm hoping it will help you anyway.. I do not know from the top of my head how to do this in WPF but I do know you can use an "unattend.xml" file and the FirstLogonCommands to execute a script or application on first logon. I have used this for Windows 7, it may not apply to XP.
I'm creating a little app that configures a connected device and then saves the config information in a file. The filename cannot be chosen by the user, but its location can be chosen.
Where is the best place for the app's default save-to folder?
I have seen examples out there where it is the "MyDocuments" location (eg Visual Studio does this).
I have seen a folder created right at the top of the C:\ drive. I find that to be a little obnoxious, personally.
It could be in the Program Files[Manufacturer] or Program Files[Product Name], or wherever the app was installed. I have used this location in the past; I dislike it because Windows Explorer does not allow a user to browse to there very easily ('browsability').
Going with this last notion that 'browsability' is a factor, I suppose MyDocuments is the best choice. Is this the most common, most widely accepted practice?
I think historically we have chosen the install folder because that co-locates the data with the device management utilities. But I would really like to get away from that. I don't want the user to have to go pawing through system files to find his/her data, esp if that person is not too Windows-savvy.
Also, I am using the .NET WinForms FolderBrowserDialog, and the "Environment.SpecialFolders" enum isn't helpful in setting up the dialog to point into the Program Files folder.
Thanks for your input!
Suz.
User data belongs in the user's folder. The (utopian) idea there being that they need only back up their personal folder, and should their computer die a sudden fiery death they would have everything they need to get their computer back up in working order. If all their personal data is scattered across the computer it only serves to confuse the user and destabilize your product.
Opinion: all this documents-and-settings stuff with lots of spaces inside is really misguided, including "my" documents. You always end up having to type it manually at the command line. I would choose a NIH structure under user's harddrive, he will only say thanks.
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I'm writing a commercial product which uses a simple registration mechanism and allows the user to use the application for a demo period before purchasing.
My application must somewhere store the registration information (if entered) and/or the date of the first launch to calculate if the user is still within the demo/trial period. While I'm pretty much finished with the registration mechanism itself, I now have to find a good way to store the registration information on the user's disk.
The most obvious idea would be to store the trial period in the preferences file, but since user tend to delete/tinker with those from time to time, it might be a good idea to keep the registration information in a separate, more hidden file.
So here's my question: What is the best place/strategy to keep and create such hidden files on Windows, Mac OS X and Linux? Here is what came to my mind so far:
Linux/Mac OS X
Most Unix-like systems are rather locked down when it comes to places a user can write files to. In most cases this is only the /tmp directory and the user's home directory.
I guess the easiest here is probably to create a file with a dot-prefix to make it less visible, then give it a name that won't make it obvious that it's associated with my application.
Windows
Probably much like Linux/Mac OS X - more recent Windows versions become more restrictive when it comes to file system permissions.
Anyway, I'd like to hear your ideas and thoughts. Even better if you have already implemented something similar in the past.
Thanks!
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For me the places for such files is more relevant than the discussion of the question if this way for copy protection is good or bad.
Who cares where you put the file. Its the contents you want to protect.
On the server side, encrypt/sign the user info with a private key and distribute it the user. Email a license file, have the application connect and download it, whatever.
In your application, include the public key. If you cant authenticate/decrypt the file, fail. If you can, continue to function. You only ever need to reconnect to the server if you can't authenticate the license file. You only need the most primitive "license server" to support this. If you email the file, the "license server" is just a script that encrypts a string and emails the user.
Nothing will protect you from sophisticated attempts to hack your application. But this solution will deny casual users the ability to break your license.
And if you want to prevent the user from re-registering multiple times or sharing the license file with their friends, record their MAC address server side and in the license file. Personally, I wouldn't do this. And it won't stop sophisticated hackers, but its up to you to decide how much time to spend in the cat and mouse game.
For Windows, you might try using Isolated Storage, which will store a file in a product unique location, which is usually sufficiently obscure (and has quite a deep path), and has the advantage of being completely transparent to the developer.
POSIX systems should put app data in a hidden file in the user's home directory. Windows systems should put something under CSIDL_APPDATA.
To be honest, no matter what you do, you will be found out. If your system is self-contained, that is it does not require to be connected to the Internet or some other device at run time, then both your lock and key must be in your code or the data you write to disk. So while you can obfuscate the key (and may be even the lock), the owner of the system can invoke system trace tools or whatever to find you out. But I guess you knew that. Every major software vendor has tried various methods to make this work, but are broken every time.
I think your only real hope is to have your software phone home regularly to see if it still has a valid license.
To illustrate the problems with this approach, there was a Linux-based media server that stored its free trial timestamp in /usr/bin/.tv. It only takes an strace for someone to realise that file is being accessed - in this case, simply deleting the file restarted the trial.
If you are a single developer you will have to spend a lot of money and/or time implementing a protection scheme that only needs to be cracked by one person to be available for everyone. Of course, your aim may only be to deter casual software pirates, in which case even the most basic protection (such as the method described above) will do the job.
Specifically on the Mac, this sort of file should live in ~/Library/Application Support/YourAppName if a user licence, or /Library/Application Support/YourAppName for a machine licence.
When a user licences my app I write the file to ~/Library/Application Support/MyAppName, as that requires no special permissions, but try to read it from both locations to allow for a machine licence if I ever create one.
Use the registry for the windows version.
It is build for keeping data in a central place, and as an added bonus, if the user deletes your entire folder, the settings ar still sitting in the register(*)
here on stackoverflow is an article describing how to access the registsry using the Java programming language.
I don't think Mac has something like this, and I know Linux certainly doesn't have it, but it is a start.
(*) the register is of course also not safe for tinkering users who can easily delete the keys belonging to your app.
I created a database for tracking metrics, with some automation tricks (email, .doc,.ppt presentations, etc) with a very large Main-table, and lots of forms/GUI. This is the first time I have ever I worried about an MDE/front-end for the thing. So if you would be so kind to answer a few questions, or offer any advice, it would be greatly appreciated (I would hate for all this work to not be utilized).
What is the first thing I need to do? It the 2000 version that must be converted to 03 to create the MDE, but does that get done before I use the database splitter?
Will the amount of objects in the database effect the ability to do this? I have something like 80 forms, 70 queries, 20+ macros, 12 tables, etc...but does the amount of objects prevent some of this from working well once the front end is there?
when i split the database, can I continue to work/make changes and such on the "back end", and have those changes directly effect the front end?
These may be some basic questions, but I don't know the answer so.....Thanks!
Here is my 2 ยข.
Question 1 - I have never used the database splitter as I feel I have more control doing it manually. If you do it manually you can do it to a version that does not have a database splitter. But if you do use the splitter then--yes--you will have to upgrade to a version that has a splitter before doing it.
To do it manually here are the steps.
Backup everything.
Create a copy of your file into the same directory. So if you have an MyApp.MDB create a copy into the same directory with a new name, such as MyAppDATA.mdb.
Open the new DATA file (MyAppDATA.mdb) and delete all of the objects EXCEPT the TABLES.
Open the App file (MyApp.mdb) and delete all of the tables.
Also in MyApp.mdb...go to the File/Get External Data/Link Tables menu to link the tables in MyAppDATA.mdb to MyApp.mdb. Select All and create the links.
That should do it. And if you screw up you made a backup...right?
A couple of tips and gotchas...be sure that you go to Tools/Options and that you are NOT showing System and Hidden tables. You just don't want to delete system tables from MyApp. Another way to do it is do NOT delete tables that start with MSys or USys.
Question 2 - Does not matter how many object you have. In fact you don't have that many objects anyway.
Question 3 - Yes...you will make backend changes in MyAppData.mdb and when you open MyApp.mdb those changes will auto-magically be there to see and query against etc. (In the query designer you may need to save/close/reopen to see new fields if you made the mod while in the query). The EXCEPTION to that is New Tables You will have to use the File/Get External Data/Link Tables option to create links to new tables.
One thing to remember (and that I hope you already realize) is that the one downside of splitting the database is that when you deploy the front end file that usually the relative path to the data will vary from machine to machine and there is no automatic re-linking of tables in access. If your target clients have full access you can always use Tools/Database Utilities/Linked Table Manager to refresh the links to the right location. If you can't do that then you will have to do one of the following:
1. Write code that does the automatic re-linking for you. Basically it will check the links...if invalid it will prompt the user for the data location (or look it up in an INI file) and re-link the tables.
2. Always deploy your app to the same location on all machines. If you have commercial visions for your application this won't work...I mention it for academic reasons. It might be doable for a limited deployment where you have a lot of control over file placement on each machine.
3. Put the Data file (MyAppDATA.mdb) onto a network share and link the table across the network using a drive mapping or UNC (\myserver\mydata\ApplicationData\MyAppData.mdb). The latter is preferred but both of them run the same risks as number two.
Seth
PS This answer assumes Access 2003.
PPS If you have commercial visions for your application then the table linking has got to be REALLY robust.
PPPS I agree with the commenter that you may want to take the plunge and do SQL if it is in your skill set.
One thing that hasn't been discussed, and that's the issue of whether the compile to MDE could fail. Basically, if your code compiles in your front-end MDB, it will convert to an MDE. But I've noticed that lots of people never compile.
Some hints for keeping your VBA code in good shape:
in VBE options, turn off COMPILE ON DEMAND.
add the COMPILE button to your standard VBE toolbar and USE IT OFTEN.
periodically, backup your MDB and decompile/recompile it.
Also, remember that you must keep the MDB source, as the VBA code is not editable in an MDE and not recoverable by any good method.
EDIT:
Steps for a decompile:
backup your MDB.
start an instance of Access with the /decompile commandline argument. For, instance, I have a shortcut on my deskstop that has this as the target:
"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE" /decompile
having opened that instance of Access, open the MDB you want to decompile. You will see nothing happen. DO NOTHING FURTHER IN THIS INSTANCE OF ACCESS -- close this instance of Access (the reason for this is that Michael Kaplan, who knows a thing or two about this, recommended that you never do any work in an Access instance opened with the decompile switch because he said there was no guarantee that the Access application code executed under those circumstances in a way that was fully safe for all kinds of Access work).
open the just-decompiled MDB holding down the shift key (you want to be sure that startup routines don't run because that would likely recompile the product before you've finished your cleanup) and compact the MDB (holding down the shift key again).
open the code editor and compile the project (DEBUG -> COMPILE [db name] for those who haven't step #2 in my original compiling instructions at the top of the post before the edit).
compact the MDB (doesn't matter if you bypass startup, since it's already fully compiled).
Why so many steps?
Because the purpose of the decompile is to get rid of the compiled p-code in order to start afresh from the canonical VBA code. Following the steps above insures that you have completely cleared the data pages storing the compiled code before you recompile. The reason for this is that without the compact step after the decompile, under some very rare circumstances, the code can behave strangely. I can't imagine that the old discarded p-code is being used again, but there's something about the pointers between the canonical code and the compiled code that apparently doesn't get completely flushed by a decompile without a compact.
This would be a comment to Seth's answer, but my rep isn't high enough to comment yet.
Seth did a great job answering your questions, I just wanted to add a bit more to part #1 about using the Database Splitter. The Database Splitter in the Tools menu works fine. Doing it manually is alright too, but it's a whole lot faster and easier to use the Database Splitter. I've used it a dozen times and never encountered any issues after using it.
http://www.databasedev.co.uk/split_a_database.html has a decent page about some of the pros, cons of splitting your database.
http://www.accessmvp.com/TWickerath/articles/multiuser.htm also has some good info when dealing with a split database in a multi-user environment.
Seth gave you a very good answer. But I'll add a few comments.
The number of objects only becomes relevant when you get close to about 1000 forms, reports and modules which have code. There's a limit about there. If you do get that message when trying to make an MDE then you almost certainly have a code error and need to compile to find the error
Another resource is "Splitting your app into a front end and back end Tips"
See the Auto FE Updater downloads page to make the process of distributing new FEs relatively painless.. The utility also supports Terminal Server/Citrix quite nicely.