Regarding the purpose of database schema - sql-server

I read a write up about database schema.
A SQL Server schema is a container of objects. For example you may have a large enterprise application and then is a good practice to use different schemas for different purposes (e.g. put HR related tables into HR schema, accounting related tables into Accounting schema and so on). A schema can be owned by any user, and the ownership is transferable.
They said: use different schemas for different purposes (e.g. put HR related tables into HR schema, accounting related tables into Accounting schema and so on)
Do they mean create new database for HR and again new database for accounting?
Because when we create a database then a single schema is created so we cannot create multiple schema in single SQL Server database as far I know.
So please tell me how is it possible to create different schemas for different purposes in a single database? Thanks

Purpose of Schema
Schemas in sql server were introduced in sql server 2005, The main purpose was to eliminate User's ownership of objects in sql server. or you can say to separate users from objects in sql server.
Prior to Sql server 2005 objects in sql server (Tables, views, Store proceders etc) were owned by users. Typically the user who created it.
And that user had to give permissions to other users to use that particular object.
Imagine a scenario where 12 developers are working in a company and all developers are creating sql objects left, right centre. Now all the developers had to give permissions to other 11 developers if they had to work objects created by that one developer. quite a bit of mess isnt it??
Since sql server 2005 came with Schema. All the objects were Owned by a Schema Not a User. if you havent created any custom schema it will be under default Schema dbo.
Now anyone who has permission to dbo schema has permission to any object under dbo schema.
Why it is a good idea to create different schemas for different departments in your case. It may be because HR people doesnt need to know anything about Finance stuff. so you can create a HR schema and give HR people permission only on HR schema. and vice versa with finance people. That will restrict their access to only objects related to their departments.
And we can create multiple Schemas in one database if you have ever worked with Adventureworks database, it has Schemas like 'Production', 'Sales' etc etc.
Read here to learn more about schemas in sql server.

No they mean create a schema. Create schema works within a database. There are all sorts of uses for it, I tend to think of it as either namespacing or a more natural way of partitioning a smallish database and keeping role based access, where you can think of schema as a user group.

Unfortunately, there are two meanings to the word "schema" in the database world.
One means the overall design of the database tables. "Show me your database schema", for example. This would be the collection of "create table" commands, or and ERD diagram.
The other is a synonym for "namespace", which the article in question is referring to. You can store tables, functions etc in different namespaces to ease cognitive load or use for security grouping.

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SQL Server permissions and views

I'm curious if there is a way for a user to use a view in database A (they have permission to database A) that accesses tables in database B (and/or additional databases they don't have permission to) without the user having access to database B?
My scenario:
We currently have a database (database A) where most of the views are housed. Most users across the team also have access to database A. We are wanting to split out our data tables from database A into their own databases (on the same server). When we do this, of course, the views will break because the tables they access will now be in database B. Since there are so many views, I'm looking for an easier way. My thought was to use database A as the hub for the views and as the views are accessed, permissions are granted to the various databases for the user(s) - without giving them direct access to the other databases.
Thank you in advance.
I think a database role would be better than a database as the container for view access.
It might be easier to delete objects than to move them. A backup-restore can create a copy of the database. Then delete the tables and views that don't belong in each database.
Cutting corners on security or integration can come back to bite. If the tables are distinctly part of different systems, then the views should go with the tables. Security and integration between systems by cross database references will tie all those systems to the same server. (Linked servers would be a performance and DTC nightmare.) We have several "separate" justice applications (e.g., DA, Public Defender, Probation, etc.) that do this. Security is still detailed via the use of database roles for each use. The integration is great, but it's a nightmare to migrate because it's all at once and together. If done correctly (e.g., connections strings to each database), we would be able to move one database at a time and update and test one system at a time. As it is now, it takes a lot of project management and a long time to get everybody ready.
If the tables are part of the same system, then schemas could be an option to segregate them if database roles are to tedious to manage. Is it more work to segregate the objects into databases or schemas than to manage a role?
Also, if you use SSDT db projects, then those cross database references (circular?) can be a pain.
For security, I would suggest a database role for each group that needs access. There is no "magic" database level container just for views. The best you can do is SELECT which includes tables and views. For just views, a script is not hard to create to grant a db role select access to all views in the db. I would not ever use grant select and then a DENY on tables because it can prevent access to table for users that should have access. If one or more schemas are used for the views, a role can be granted SELECT access to the schema. This might be the best option. If the view schema and the objects accessed by the view have the same owner, the ownership chain should allow access via the view to tables. For example, if the "view" schema is owned by "dbo", views in the "view" schema should be able to access tables in the "dbo" schema without the user being granted access to those tables. (I have not tried it.)
It would be nice if there was a second flavor of INSERT, UPDATE, etc. permissions that applied to views only, but there isn't.

What are the implications of creating tables in a database with different schemas?

I am creating a database with about 40 different tables.
I have heard about people grouping tables into database 'schemas' - what are the implications of using different schemas in a database? Can tables from one schema still relate to another schema? What are the functional differences between different schemas?
Where are schemas located in SSMS? They are rightfully placed under the security tab.
Lets use the AdventureWorks databases.
If you assign security at the schema level, purchasing users will only have access to the purchasing table and sales people will have only access to the sales tables.
In fact, they will not even see the other tables if you set it up correctly.
If you combine schemas with creating tables/indexes on file groups, now you can place all the sales people onto file group sales and purchasing on file group purchasing.
IE - Spreading the I/O load.
In short, I think schemas are an unknown and little used feature.
Check out my blog article on this fact.
http://craftydba.com/?p=4326
I assume that you are talking about SQL Server. You can join and reference between tables in different schemas. I see it mostly used for visual organization and/or for managing objects' permission (you can assign permissions at the schema-level).
If you are worried about any negative effects of doing dbo.table vs custom.table - there aren't any that I imagine you would encounter.
Schemas are just collections of database objects. They are useful for maintaining separation of sets of objects.
There is always at least one schema. For SQL Server it is named dbo.
One implication of having multiple schemas is that you will have to manage permissions for the various schemas. This is usually done via a role that's associated with the schema.
Objects in one schema are available to objects from another, and there is no performance penalty in writing queries that use objects from multiple schemas.

Oracle database: Group tables in folders, like Postgres Schemas?

is there a way to group tables into Postgres's schema like structure? We have a Postgresql server we want to move to Oracle DB. We use a lot of schemas to categorize tables. Anything Similar in oracle? Oracle has Schemas but there is a one to one relation between schema and a user. Schema == User.
Is there another stack-exchange that might be more appropriate for this question?
You will need to create the same amount of schemas in Oracle as you did in PostgreSQL. The fact that each schema is also associated with a user should not bother you.
You don't have to log-in with all those users if that's what you are wondering.
Just create one "application" user, and grant the necessary privileges on the tables you create in the various schemas to that application user.
If you used PostgreSQL's search path feature to avoid fully qualified table names, then you'll need to create synonyms (owned by the "applicatoin" user) that point to the tables in the various schemas.

Difference between SQL Server and Oracle 'User'

Are there any differences between a user in SQL Server and one in Oracle? If so, what are they?
In Oracle, the users and the schema are one thing. You can create two different tables with the same name, belonging to different users.
In SQL Server, schema and user are separate things. The users are only used to log in and define permissions.
See this question for more information: What is the difference between an Oracle and Microsoft schema?
Oracle schemas are like My Documents folders in the Windows OS. A user can grant permissions to other users to see things in their schema but an Oracle schema is essentially a user's workspace.
MS SQL Server's schemas are namespaces. While you can have Accounting and Marketing schemas, they are not tightly-coupled to individual users. Objects in an Accounting schema contain accounting information and objects in the Marketing schema have marketing information.
Oracle schemas are tightly-coupled to users and MS SQL Server schemas are primarily for classification.

schema in sql server 2008

what is the difference between creating ordinary tables using 'dbo' and creating tables using schemas.How this schema works & supports the tables
A schema is just a container for DB objects - tables, views etc. It allows you to structure a very large database solution you might have. As a sample, have a look at the newer AdventureWorks sample databases - they have a number of schemata included, like "HumanResources" and so forth.
A schema can be a security boundary, e.g. you can give or deny certain users access to a schema as a whole. A schema can also be used to keep tables with the same name apart, e.g. you could create a "user schema" for each user of your application, and have a "Settings" table in each of them, holding that user's settings, e.g. "Bob.Settings", "Mary.Settings" etc.
In my experience, schemata are not used very often in SQL Server. It's a way to organize your database objects into containers, but unless you have a huge amount of database objects, it's probably something you won't really use much.
dbo is a schema.
See if this helps.
Schema seems to be a way of categorizing objects (tables/stored procs/views etc).
Think of it as a bucket to organize related objects based on functionality.
I am not sure, how logged in SQL user is tied to a specific schema though.

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