I'm in the process of starting up a web site project. My plan is to roll out the site in a somewhat rudimentary form first and then add to the site functionality along the way.
I'm using Subsonic 3 for my DAL, and I'm expecting the database will go through multiple versions as the sites evolve. This means I'll need some kind of versioning and migration tools. I understand that Subsonic has built in migration possibilities, but I'm having difficulties grasping how to use these tools, in my scenario.
First there's the SimpleRepository model, where the Subsonic "automagically" handles the migrations as i develop my site. I can see how this works on my dev-machine, but I'm not sure how to handle deployments with this.
Would Subsonic run the necessary migrations on my live site as the appropriate methods are called?
Is there some way I can force all necessary migrations on a site while taking the site offline, when using the Simplerepository model? (Else I would expect random users to experience severe performance cuts, as the migration routines kick in)
Would I be better off using the ActiveRecord model, and then handling migrations with the Subsonic.Schema.Migrator? (I suspect so)
Do you know of any good resources explaining how to handle this situation with the migrator? (I read the doc, but I can't piece together how I would use this in practice)
Thanks for listening/replying.
Regards
Jesper Hauge
I would advise against ever running migrations against a live site. SubSonic's migrations are really there to make development simpler and should never be used against a live environment. To be honest even using SubSonic.Schema.Migrator you're still going to bump into the fact that refactoring databases is an incredibly hard problem. For example renaming a column in a table using management studio is trivial, but what happens in the background involves creating an entirely new table and migrating all the constraints, data etc. before renaming the new table.
The most effective way I've found for dealing with this is:
Script all database changes as you make them in your development environment (SQL Server Management Studio will do this for you) and add these scripts to your source control.
As part of deployment (obviously backup first) run the migration scripts and then deploy the updated application on success.
Whether you use ActiveRecord or SimpleRepository is then down to whether you want the extra features/complexity of ActiveRecord.
Hope this helps
i would use activerecord easy to use and any changes you just run the TT files, you would then just build or publish your slution and done ???? SVN will keep your multiple versions of the build stage so if you make a tit of it you just drop back a revision.
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At a conference yesterday, I learned about the importance of putting your database in source control. They showed us how to make a new Database project and import the database.
What I was wondering about is how I would change an existing project running on Entity Framework to utilize the database project's power?
Schema updates have always been done by using Entity Framework Migrations. I get that the Database project will be able to deploy database updates for me and save those update scripts to source control, but I would like to keep Entity Framework for querying my data (if that makes any sense at all).
Is it possible (or even: recommended) to use Entity Framework to access the database but manage the database using a Database project in Visual Studio ? How do you go about this?
I've tried searching for similar questions and using Google to find if anyone else is having the same problem, but no dice so far.
I should also state that I am considering using this in databases that also have stored procedures in them. These are not controlled through Entity Framework at all, and therefore are not in source control yet.
Thank you for your time.
What I was wondering about is how I would change an existing project
running on Entity Framework to utilize the database project's power?
Answer: I suggest you to see this course from Plural Sight : https://www.pluralsight.com/courses/code-first-entity-framework-legacy-databases
Is it possible (or even: recommended) to use Entity Framework to access the database but manage the database using a Database project
in Visual Studio ? How do you go about this?
Answer: Yes, it's possible and recommended. Your data project becomes the source of truth about the structure of your database. This is very powerful to keep control of all the changes and state of your database in one place (Visual Studio). The course from the first answer will teach you how.
I should also state that I am considering using this in databases that
also have stored procedures in them. These are not controlled through
Entity Framework at all, and therefore are not in source control yet.
Answer: I don't see any problem using stored procedures. The tool from the Plural Sight course will create the procedure in your source control and the reverse engineering will create a class/method for easy use of the proc.
I just came across the below alternative, which I didn't test though:
Generate Entity Framework Core classes from a SQL Server database project - .dacpac file
I believe this should be something to be considered
I developed an application like that, having 2 projects: application itself and the SSDT project for the database. The database changes were deployed via change scripts, and EF migrations were disabled in the application.
Everything worked fine, although it did bring a bit of an overhead. For example, it was a bit of a hassle to introduce major database updates / refactorings into the EF layer. For some reason, I was unable to reverse engineer database changes directly into the app, so I had to do it half-manually: creating new project, generate EF context for the entire database, and then copying new / changed files into the main application.
(Then again, it was almost 5 years ago. With luck, EF scaffolding has improved since then.)
Background:
I am using GitHub to store a ZF2 application.
The database schema + the actual data stored inside the schema are not being stored inside a version control. At the moment I am in development mode, so I have some database dump scripts that I load into the database when I need to. I also tweak entries in the database via phpMyAdmin when I need ongoing granular control for immediate testing purposes. I am also looking into using Doctrire ORM, so my schema will be part of my code via Annotations, and that will be checked into GitHub. Doctrine ORM will generate the actual schema for me, although it is still a separate step in the deployment process. The actual data however, will still be outside of the application and outside of the repository and currently has to be dealt with separately and is not automated.
Goal:
I want to be able to deploy ZF2 application and the database schema, and the data onto Zend Server and have it "just work" in the most automated, least manual way possible.
Question:
What is a recommended, best practice way to deploy every aspect of ZF2 application in the most automated, least manual way possible and have it "just work"? Let's focus on the Development and Testing mode here, as in Production it may be good to have separate deployment steps to protect against accidental live data overwrites.
You can try Phing (http://www.phing.info/) for deploying your PHP application, adjusting directory permissions, running database migrations, running unit tests, etc. I used Phing in couple of my projects with great success.
My current development environment for C# projects is Visual Studio, with a SQL Server database and using VisualSVN to connect to my SVN repository. To manage revisions of my Stored Proceduress, Views, etc I save the ALTER script to a folder watched by my SVN client so these get included in the repository.
I have checked out some (now older) posts like this one (How to keep Stored Procedures and other scripts in SVN/Other repository? and Is there a SVN plugin for SQL Server Management Studio 2005 or 2008?) and have seen a recommendation for these tools: http://www.red-gate.com/products/sql-development/sql-source-control/ and http://www.zeusedit.com/agent/ssms/ms_ssms.html .
As I infrequently work with projects doing much DB-side programming, this has never been a major bother (a dozen scripts in a folder with some naming scheme is not much to manage manually), but I have just inherited a project with a few hundred views and 1000+ Stored Procedures which have never been included in version control.
My question is:
What process do others follow for managing the versioning of their SQL Server code - is there a an accepted, clever or otherwise obvious approach I am missing here? I am leaning currently towards the purchase of one of the aforementioned tools - but am looking for advice from the community before I do this.
I realize this may result in a tool recommendation rather than a code solution but posted to SO as I think this is the appropriate crowd to ask this of.
I would recommend you go with something like the redgate tool, and treat any SQL database in the same way you'd treat your C# source code; manually keeping track of the ALTER statements will trip you up sonner or later as the number of modifications grow..can't speak for the zeus edit tool but having used the redgate one, it "just works" - and another benefit of using a tool like this is that it can manage your migration scripts so you can make a bunch of changes on your development version, then generate a single update script to update your testing database, etc,including data changes which is imho the biggest PITA to manually manage.
The other thing to consider, even if the number of changes are infrequent and you get away with manually tracking the ALTER statements, what if someone else ends up working on the same project; now you have another potential for mismanaged change scripts....
Anyway, do let us know how you get on and best of luck with it!
I’ve been maintaining a database with around 800+ db objects in it. We've always just scripted the database objects to a svn-watched folder as you describe. We have had some issues with this method, mostly with people forgetting to script new or modified objects. At the end of the day it hasn't been a huge problem for our project, but yours may be different.
We’ve looked into a couple tools, but they always assume you are starting from scratch, and we have almost 10 years of history we’d like to preserve. In the end we just end up settling back into our text-based manual solution. It's cheap and easy.
Another option you might want to look into is setting up a Visual Studio Database Project. It will script all your objects and provide some deployment options as well. My opinion was that it tired to be a little too tightly integrated for our tastes - we have a few named references to linked databases that it just wouldn't give up on.
I am currently investigating possible options of a migration framework/tool. I like the idea of ruby migrations on which the above frameworks are based.
So I am asking for your experience, opinions and maybe a comparison between them. Are you using them in production?
thanks for responses. The goal of this question was to get a feeling about which tools is used most in the developer community but it seems that migrations are not a hot topic here.
Anyway, I have decided to go with MigSharp as the codebase seem to be pretty clean and it is quite easy to handle and had build in support for MS SQL CE. Second runner up would have been FluentMigrator where I was not able to produce a working example for compact edition.
Cheers
I use FluentMigrator in production, and am a longtime contributor to FM. I think your question is to general; be more specific. Also, FM has a google group which is fairly active if you want FM information.
FM is derived from migrator.net, as I recall. It uses a fluent-syntax, and supports multiple databases. We have taken some inspiration from rails migrations, but it's definitely not a port. Worth checking out.
One thing I've learned is not to put your migrations in the same assembly as you app code. Separate them into a migration assembly, and use that for migrating your databases.
Also, you should always work on multiple environments to avoid problems with migrations run straight against production. I always have at least a development and production environment, and most of the time there is a testing environment as well.
I use mig#.
It works well, but you will need to have some guidelines for usage - as migrations can get complicated.
We use sequence number on the end of our migrations rather than a date-time stamp. This is because we don't know when the date time stamp was set (when they begun the source code change-set; just before committing; some time inbetween) different developers could use different approaches.
Names such as Migration_0000034.cs give you plenty of space.
At this point, I would stick with migrator.net. I like the promise of FluentMigrator, but it seems to not have any better active development than migrator.net (see the issues and pull requests that have languished on their github site).
There is also no easy way to do an ExecuteScalar(). I'd add it, but I don't want to create my own fork, and I see no reason that a pull request would actually land in the master. (Execute.WithConnection is an Action so it will fire on demand rather than when I need it to fire)
So for me, I'm heading back to migrator.net.
I'm using the GDR release of VSTS Database edition source control the DB and generate deployment scripts. It works pretty well but the problem is that it only seems to handle scripting and deploying the schema. It stops short of handling scripting and deployment of the actual data itself (i.e. the lookup and standing data which also deployed with the DB).
I know it's easy enough to write the deployment scripts by hand, but is this what every one does? Is there a recommended way of deploying data with the VSTS deployment engine? Is there some tooling that help with this - I don't mean a full product like SQLCompare, just something that fills the gap with VSTS DB.
Thanks in advance.
Kaneda
The VSTS: DB best practices blog advocates using post-deployment scripts to insert reference data into temporary tables, then update the target tables based on the delta (ie update x inner join temp where x.something <> temp.something)
There's some suggestions floating around that this might make a powertool, and at least one MVP has written a tool to generate those scripts.
(NB: I haven't tried this - I only just found out about it myself)
Personally I would still stick with RedGate if I had any choice in the matter.
GDR comes with a data comparison engine, but as far as I've been able to tell so far a data comparison can't even be stored in a project (let alone be properly supported by it) - so it's pretty ad-hoc. Unlike a Schema Compare, there is no File \ Save As.
The comparison engine can be automated via DDE but that's automation within the Visual Studio IDE, and not really suitable for some kind of scripted installation process. As much as anything there's no way I could see to specify which tables to include in the comparison (since all you get to do via DDE is open the wizard for the user to select)
Alternatively all the functionality appears to reside in Microsoft.VisualStudio.TeamSystem.DataPackage.dll , but since the API documentation hasn't been written yet (the help doco that comes with GDR is full of errors as it is) it's going to be a bit of a hit-and-miss adventure to work out where to start.
As someone who's used RedGate's SqlCompare, SqlDataCompare and their respective APIs to do this before, much of the GDR functionality seems a bit half-baked to me.
What I will probably do this time round is sync the data with a SSIS package (export to CSV at build time / import from CSV at install time), but I'd far rather be using the SqlDataCompare API (or SqlPackager) right now.